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Title: More dots - version 2.14
Post by: Richard Woodroffe on 2007-01-27 05:23 PM
Take a look at the dots here - I think that is is still a bit awry.

Title: Re: More dots - version 2.14
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2007-01-27 05:41 PM
For now, when the default dot placements conflict in intervals of a 2nd, the NWC1 dot placement scheme is used.

In split stem chords, the lower voice will always move the dot below a colliding staff line.
Title: Re: More dots - version 2.14
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-01-27 05:49 PM
Yes, but which one is awry? the simple Chord reverts to 1.75b behaviour. (Support beat me to it)

Now this:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-2,-1
|Bar
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-2,-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Looks very strange. Of course, the first note is "unmusical", but still disconcerting.
Title: Re: More dots - version 2.14
Post by: Archive on 2007-01-28 02:43 AM
This:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th,DblDotted|Pos2:-2,-1
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
is musical, and is still overlapping.
Title: Re: More dots - version 2.14
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2007-01-28 02:53 AM
Not real keen on these ones either...

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|RestChord|Dur:8th,Dotted|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th,Dotted|Pos2:-3,-2
|Bar
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-3,-2
|Bar
|RestChord|Dur:8th,Dotted|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th,Dotted|Pos2:-3,-2
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Title: Re: More dots - version 2.14
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-01-28 03:15 AM
Now that I look at this, I don't think is a a problem of changing the dots. Looks like a spacing problem. I'll take these and add my own space. As the chief complainer about "too much space" over the past year, I'm happy to see too little.
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-6
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
I like the spacing on the 1st 8th note better than the 2nd one. I can always hide the rest.
Title: Re: More dots - version 2.14
Post by: David Palmquist on 2007-01-28 05:08 AM
Interesting things keep popping up.  Enter this on a staff:

|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th,DblDotted|Pos2:-1o|Color:0|Visibility:Default

Then highlight it, press period twice to have it double-dotted.  Now press period one more time.  It should clear the dots, but it only clears the dots on the rest. 

Here:
 |RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem,VertOffset=-11|Dur2:Half|Pos2:2o|Color:0|Visibility:Default

if you wanted to dot the half note, you can't.

Neither of these are a problem for me, since I don't do much chording, but I thought it was interesting.



Title: Re: More dots - version 2.14
Post by: Archive on 2007-01-28 11:04 PM
Well, mine technically isn't musical, but I've seen multi-voice staves end on different beats in rare instances.
Title: Re: More dots - version 2.14
Post by: Rick G. on 2007-01-30 12:55 AM
Those contemplating puchase of NWC surely try to beam or edit RestChords and split Chords. They must feel frustrated by the limitations.

I'll defer to those who started beta testing before I did, but it seems to me that once layering stopped being an "Experiment Feature", all work on these objects (RestChords and split Chords) stopped. A dubious decision, as it gives the impression that the software is unfinished.

From the perspective of selling the software (as opposed to using it), it would seem better not to have these objects than to have them partially implemented.