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Title: Organ Pedal
Post by: Yarison on 2004-01-08 08:27 PM
Hi Friends,
Compliments of the season to you all. Please, how can I get a realistic organ pedal sound? I have tried some options but none sounds satisfactory yet. I will appreciate your suggestions.
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: I like using the Bassoon on 2004-01-08 11:02 PM
I like using the Bassoon
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Son of Bassoon on 2004-01-09 03:05 AM
The above reply may seem facetious, but it is not.

The when you play music from NWC (or from MIDI), the sound you get depends on the digital instruments of your sound card (or of your software synth, if that is what you use).

If you don't like the organ pedal sound, it may be that your sound card (synth) doesn't have a good sound there. If so, then there's not much NWC can do, since it's not caused by NWC - BUT you can change the instrument from organ to something else. It may well be the case that some odd instrument (bassoon?) sounds more like "organ pedal" than does organ.
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Emmanual on 2004-01-09 03:53 AM
I use an extra staff with a duplicate part, but sounding one octave lower.
On my soundcard, it works quite well.
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: I like using the Bassoon on 2004-01-09 05:49 PM
Actually I was being serious.  The main reason is that
the organ patches on my system have a very slow attack
on the lowest notes.  The bassoon has a quick and clear
attack and keeps the bass-line distinct.  On most organs
there are a variety of sounds available to the player.
I think on most pipe organs there are pipes that simulate
the sounds of woodwinds, brass, and strings.  I guess
there is no single "correct" organ sound.
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Jan J.H.Hofland on 2004-01-14 01:45 PM
The pedal register on the organ is used for the bass notes produced by the largest pipes. When the term 'pedal' appears in the score you'll have to go one,two or even three octaves below the notation on the score to simulate 8',16'or 32' pipes. The 32' is generally not available on non-European organs.

One octave down is the one  you'll use most.  The easiest way to do this in NWC is to activate the bass line, press <insert> <clef> choose the bass clef and press <octave down>. This inserts the bass clef with a small 8 underneath it into your score. In this way you retain the notation as it is on the score you use but it will sound one octave lower.

Jan
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Warren Porter on 2004-01-14 03:10 PM
Jan's method of making the organ sound an octave below what is written is correct, but often there is no "8" on the bass clef although there may be for the tenor part written on a treble clef.  To do the same thing without the "8", select "Tools" then "Transpose".  Transpose down by 12 semitones w/o Playback Transposition.

If you need to transpose by two octaves you will need both methods.
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Emmanual on 2004-01-15 03:16 AM
If you need to transpose by two octaves you will need both methods.
What about just using -24?
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Warren Porter on 2004-01-15 03:12 PM
It only has a range of -12 to +12 semitones.
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Emmanual on 2004-01-16 02:14 AM
It only has a range of -12 to +12 semitones.
_Staff
Staff _Properties...
(or F2)
Midi tab
_Transposition
I can put -24 here.  Can't you?  Did I get the bonus version?
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: NoteWorthy Online on 2004-01-16 11:02 AM
The Tools, Transpose (http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/nwchelp/MNU_TRANSPOSE.htm) command has a range of +/- 12. The Transposition field in Staff Properties (http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/nwchelp/MNU_EDITSTAFF.htm) has a range of +/- 24.
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Peter Edwards on 2004-01-16 09:02 PM
Why?
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Robert White on 2004-01-16 10:43 PM
Doesn't +/- mean the same as ±?
Or is that one of those things that not everyone can see on their screens?
Title: Re: Organ Pedal
Post by: Graham on 2004-01-18 10:42 PM
Answer to original question - Best of all, buy a second hand SoundBlaster Live 1024 soundcard off e-bay and install it, then download the JEUX Soundfont (Google will find it for you) - and play real organ music.  You'll never ever want to use Church Organ patch 19 again!