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Title: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Eric Hahn on 2002-06-01 10:50 PM
What is the symbol called that looks like a squiggly vertical line to the left of a chord that makes you play the chord in a sequence instead of all at one time?  And, how do you go about putting it to a chord?
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Simon Carroll on 2002-06-01 11:09 PM
I think it's called an arpeggiation symbol. You could use a music font like boxmarks or nwc extra ornaments for the symbol.  Then make a hidden stave with how it should be
played on it.  Don't forget to mute the visual staff and
hide the staff with how it should sound on it.
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: John Holland on 2002-06-01 11:10 PM
Re: The squiggly line before a chord.

Unfortunately, I don't know what its technical name is, but it refers to the spreading out of the chord through the fingers in sequence.

There is currently no such feature on Noteworthy - suggest in on the Wish List! - what you can do as an alternative is use the appogiatura tool (with a tie on each note) - it won't like quite right, but at least it might play the way you want it to sound!

John (UK)
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Eric Hahn on 2002-06-01 11:56 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: makenzie on 2005-10-31 11:03 PM
what does the symbol "#" called?
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Post by: David Palmquist on 2005-11-01 03:27 AM
sharp
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Post by: Marcus on 2005-11-11 03:06 PM
What is the number symbol -#- called?
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Post by: Robin Withey on 2005-11-11 05:00 PM
"Hash", usually.
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Post by: Batchman on 2005-11-11 05:19 PM
The # symbol has many names:  sharpsign, gridlet, octothorpe, hash, number sign, etc.  None has really dominated or even caught on in a significant way.  In the US, at least, it is commonly referred to as "pound" or "pound sign", which I imagine Ukers would take issue with.

See any number of web sites, e.g. for octothorpe (http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-oct1.htm).
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Rob den Heijer on 2005-11-11 07:59 PM
How simple it is at home... we call it 'kruis', which would translate to 'cross'. 'Mol' = flat. But, then, we have to make do with 'herstellingsteken' for a natural sign. It translates roughly to 'cancelling-out sign'.
On a phone, we call it 'hekje', meaning the diminutive of 'gate'. Which it is, visually. You can just see the little sheep clearing it.
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Post by: Aure (Italy) on 2005-11-12 02:13 AM
In Italy the only name is "cancelletto", that means "little gate"...
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Post by: babyoreo on 2006-01-12 07:21 AM
I'd like to know what is # of the telephone called in the US?
In Japan, it is called "Sharp" in the same way as a Music score.
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: David Palmquist on 2006-01-12 07:49 AM
I think the US calls it a pound sign, just as we do in Canada.

The reason is that it was (and is) used synonymously with pound or pounds in weight and their abbreviations lb or lbs.

The symbol was (and likely still is) displayed on price markers for fruit and vegetables, and used on bills of lading (if I recall correctly from my days as a shipper many years ago).
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Post by: Ken Natton on 2006-01-12 10:31 AM
'Squiggly' line to the left of the chord - the formal name may be arpeggiation but it is more popularly known as a spread chord. Famous example - the opening of Rachmaninov's 2nd piano concerto. Most pianists have no option but to play them as spread chords because of the size of thier hands. Rachmaninov himself had exceptionally massive hands and did not play them as spread chords.

# symbol on a telephone is popularly known as 'hash'. In the US it is a long standing abbreviation for number. As with many Americanisms, it has now become common usage in the UK for the same purpose.
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Post by: Robert A. on 2006-01-12 07:25 PM
Typical response when an automated system picks up the telephone, in the U.S.A.: "Enter the extension number, then the pound sign." Example: 3482#
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Post by: Bill on 2006-01-13 08:56 AM
In OZ its referred to as "The Hash" in telephone useage.
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Post by: John Kavanagh on 2006-01-13 05:46 PM
Yeah, "pound sign" for # is stupid because £ is a "pound" sign. I suppose they avoid "number sign" because some telephone users would think "golly, ALL these keys have numbers on them" (you don't have to pass a test to buy a telephone). "Octothorpe" is stupid but funny. I like "cross-hatch" myself, but nobody ever listens to me....
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Ted on 2006-01-14 02:23 AM
When did Australia become Oz?
We used to hear "Aussies" during the Olympics, but now we hear "Ozzies."
Why?
[and does this annoy anyone else?]
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Rob den Heijer on 2006-01-14 12:26 PM
I have no evidence, but my ears tell me that Australians, a.k.a. Aussies, could be called Ozzies with little change in sound. The spelling undergoes a bigger change, but that's a bonus. Now, it seems like you have to be one of the in-crowd to understand.
But I understood anyway, even as an antipode.

If I am totally and utterly wrong, I expect to hear so. And I expect to learn at least two things from the experience. (if not, I will be even more stuck up than I already was ;-) )
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Post by: Barry Graham on 2006-01-14 11:46 PM
Phonetically.
Only Amercans call use Aussssies.
To Australians and the rest of the world we are Ozzzies.

Barry from OZ.
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: David Palmquist on 2006-01-15 04:17 AM
JK, re reply 16, go here for more than you ever wanted to know about the # sign:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sign.

BG, re reply 19, no.  In Canada we use the hard "s" too, and we are not part of what is known in the US as "America."
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Post by: "Pom" Frank on 2006-01-15 09:14 AM
Nice one, Bazza ;)
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Ted on 2006-01-16 03:03 AM
So do you live in Oztralia?
No Aussie I've ever heard on TV, in a movie, or in real life has ever pronounced it that way.
The first time I saw "OZ" here at the forum, I was like "What the?"
Have I gone over the rainbow?
That was about four years ago, when I also heard all those sports commentators start to pronounce it Ozzy (as in Osbourne) instead of Aussie ("Awsie").
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Barry Graham on 2006-01-16 06:28 AM
Ozzie.
That's how it sounds.
No other way.
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2006-01-16 08:21 AM
G'day Ted,
I must concur with Barry - and every other "Ozzie".  Only by Americans are we called "Awsie" and to our ears it sounds quite silly!  :)

As for pronounciation of "Australia" you'll find it is more like "ozstRAylia" although you'll find a few who elide the "Au" altogether and pronounce it as "'stRAylia" - This was very common post WWII but now seems to be disappearing.

We tend to elide letters and run everything together.

F'rinstance - "How are you going mate?" would be something like "owyagoinmate?" And quite often you will hear an "orrite" (alright) on the end.

As for my greeting "G'day", the "G" is fairly soft and the emphasis is on the "day".  It is not really "GIDday" as [abbr=again, mainly Americans]some[/abbr] seem to think, though in some Australian states it does drift towards "gidday".

Seeyalatermate,
Lawrie
Title: Re: What is the symbol called...
Post by: Robin Withey on 2006-01-16 08:26 AM
Sounds like the old saying about British and Americans being divided by a common language also applies to the Australians!
Nah, we tawk propah Queen's English 'ere!