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Title: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: FrankSit on 2023-12-08 06:45 PM
Hello,

How can we make the sound of the nwc file when we play it, because when I screen save it and make the video for my youtube the sound is not loud enough.

Thank you,

Frank
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: Mike Shawaluk on 2023-12-08 09:33 PM
Do you have any dynamic marks (i.e. fff, ff, f, mf, mp, p, pp, ppp) in your score? If not, you can add a ff or fff to the beginning of each staff to make them louder than the default.

I forget what the default volume is if there are no dynamic marks. Anyone else remember?
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2023-12-08 09:50 PM
I forget what the default volume is if there are no dynamic marks. Anyone else remember?
fff  :))
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: FrankSit on 2023-12-08 10:17 PM
The more f.... the louder?
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2023-12-09 06:49 AM
Frank,
if the sound when you're normally playing a song through NWC is OK, then the problem is NOT with NWC.

Check the recording software you're using because that's probably where you'll need to make adjustments.
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: Flurmy on 2023-12-09 10:16 AM
I forget what the default volume is if there are no dynamic marks. Anyone else remember?
fff  :))
Well, almost: 110.
Normally fff is 127 and ff is 108, so it's a bit more than ff.
(Yes, I'm picky... sorry  :D )
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2023-12-09 01:03 PM

fff  :))
Well, almost: 110.
Normally fff is 127 and ff is 108, so it's a bit more than ff.
(Yes, I'm picky... sorry  :D )
Hi mate,
actually, if you create a new score with no template (IE <Blank Score>), the default volume on the only staff is 127.
If you add additional staves, no matter which template you use, they will default to a volume of 127.
Velocity levels that represent dynamics also have defaults unless overridden by the itree.
E,G, ff is 108, fff is 127, ppp is 10 etc.
If you do not assign a dynamic it will default to fff which defaults to a velocity of 127

Soo, defaults are Volume 127, Velocity also 127* ('cos fff)
* Unless you've edited your itree, but even then I don't think that would apply until you assign an instrument...
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: Warren Porter on 2023-12-09 01:17 PM
The default dynamic levels are at the top of this page: dynamics.html (https://nwc-scriptorium.org/wp/dynamics.html)
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: Flurmy on 2023-12-09 04:13 PM
If you do not assign a dynamic it will default to fff which defaults to a velocity of 127
Soo, defaults are Volume 127, Velocity also 127* ('cos fff)
Default Volume = 127, no doubt.
Default velocty = 110, not 127. Try to believe.
And no, I didn't edit the itree.

The default dynamic levels are at the top of this page: dynamics.html (https://nwc-scriptorium.org/wp/dynamics.html)
Warren, unless I completely misunderstood, we are talking here of the default velocity when no explicit velocity is specified.

So: this
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:1|CaretIndex:10|CaretPos:0
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:"<Name>"|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:"Copyright © 2023 <Name>"|Copyright2:"All Rights Reserved"
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:4|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Dynamic|Style:mf|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Dynamic|Style:f|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Dynamic|Style:ff|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Dynamic|Style:fff|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
sounds as:
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Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 110
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 75
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 92
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 108
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 127
Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2023-12-09 09:42 PM
Default Volume = 127, no doubt.
Default velocty = 110, not 127. Try to believe.
And no, I didn't edit the itree.
Just did my own test which confirms this, so now my question becomes:
When did this change? 'cos I'm *certain it hasn't always been this way.

* I's possible I may be wrong, but I am certain  ;)
Title: Re: louder the sound of nwc when we played
Post by: Flurmy on 2023-12-09 10:29 PM
I think Rick said "it's a bit louder than FF" many, many years ago, so it should not be too recent a change.
N.B. Of course, we are discussing about "goat's wool", as we say in Italy. That is, "negligible things"!