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Messages - kahman

204
General Discussion / Re: High(er) visibility notation font - NWC2HiVisLP.ttf
I agree that the quarter-note rest is the same in both fonts, except for boldness.
Here's a picture of the NWC2MusikDingsSans, NWC2HiVisLP, and NWC2SwingDings quarter rests, respectively.  I can see quite a large form difference between the 1st two and the last one.
206
General Discussion / Re: how mordente is inserted (~)
If you just want the character "~", simply insert a text object (Insert-Text or "x" key) and in the box saying "expression", enter ~.

If what you're saying is you want a trill (tr~~~~), see http://nwc-scriptorium.org/faq.html#3.6 for a detailed explanation on how to make them sound.  To get them shown, you'll have to download an appropriate font, configure it using File-Page Setup by going to the "Fonts" tab, and changing a "User Font", then go to Insert-Text, enter the trill characters in expression, and in display font, choose the font you changed.
For a font to use for trills, I recommend either one of Lawrie Pardy's -Dings fonts or BoxMarks.
207
General Discussion / Re: Back again ..... how to select text
Another way you could do it, a bit more complicated:
  • To get the score into your word-processor:
    • From your file with the score, go to File-Print Preview
    • For each page:
      • Click the "Copy" button
      • Paste into Word Processor of Choice
      • Click the "Next" Button
    • Then go to the end and add lyrics as you would normally add plain text.
Note: You may need to resize the pasted sheets of music.
208
General Discussion / Re: Working with FINALE
Your friend probalbly has Finale NotePad, not real Finale.  You should check he knows he's using Finale.
Also, your friend can't get NWC.  NWC is Windows-only.  :-(
211
General Discussion / Re: Help for non-composer users
Also, you can export to MIDI, import those into certain CD burning software packages, and just burn to a CD.  (iTunes can convert from MIDI to MP3, or burn MIDIs to CD.)
217
General Discussion / Limited Features when making Band/Orchestral Scores
If you look at any professionally printed Orchestral Full Score, it has the parts divided into different sections.  I have a score right in front of me right now, and it uses Noteworthy Orchestral Braces for sections such as Woodwinds, Brass, etc.

However, in NWC or NWC2, you can only have the brace tops/bottoms at the top and bottom of the entire score, not in groups.<Image Link>  (I know you can force a bar break by making an empty staff set to Standard and layering it with the above staff.)

Any reccomendations?
219
General Discussion / Re: Global tempo change
I don't think there's a built in tool for this, but I'm sure somewhere there's a user tool that does it if you use NWC2-I don't know PHP, so I can't write one...I need to learn PHP!
221
General Discussion / Re: Serious bug in length of Whole Notes (But Not Rests)
He didn't seem to see that the time signature ( the first thing I look at when reading a piece) dictates the # of beats (and type of beats) required in each measure and therefore the duration of the whole rest.

That's what I've been saying all along.
  (Unless I understand what you're saying wrong.)

What I'm trying to say is that the length of a whole note is equal to the top note of the key signature.  That's also what is in one measure.

Look at this:
Top staff:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Rest|Dur:Whole
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:0
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Bottom Staff:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Rest|Dur:Half
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:0^
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

That's what I was talking about at the start.
222
General Discussion / Re: Serious bug in length of Whole Notes (But Not Rests)
Yeah, that's what I'm running into, Fitzclan.  I'm not sure how to fix it, though-something like this?
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:5/4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3^
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:-3^
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Unfortunately, the tie (required for playback) does not have visibility properties.
And it gets a lot more complex for 3/4 situations...
Best I can do is:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:3/4
|Text|Text:"j"|Font:User6|Pos:3
|Note|Dur:Half,Dotted|Pos:0|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
(User 6 is set to NWC2STDA)
223
General Discussion / Serious bug in length of Whole Notes (But Not Rests)
I have been working on a project that's not in 4/4 time and noticed that while a whole rest fills up the entire measure, regardless of whether it's 2/4 of 5/4 or whatever, a whole note does not.
From what I've always heard a whole rest/note does not take up the amount of beats in the lower section of the time signature, but should fill up the whole measure?

Has anyone else experienced this problem?
224
General Discussion / Re: MIDI recording question
I wish I could figure out how to set it to step time, whenever I try to record, I end up with (examples following...)

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6^|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Dotted|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:16th
|Note|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:-2
|Rest|Dur:32nd
|Note|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:1^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
instead of
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-6
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-4
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:1
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

If you're going to do it the way I'm doing, be prepared to suffer for your art. ;-)
226
General Discussion / Re: Problem with staff groupings
That's because when you have braces, Noteworthy automatically makes the bar lines like that.  I wish that I could just have the Orchestral Style in sections among different groups of staves, or control barring a bit more. 

Isn't this automatic stuff why Noteworthy is a great program? ;-)
Really, what did you expect?
227
General Discussion / Re: Nested triplets - a challenge?
With this much effort into workarounds, it probalbly looks better then Sibelius renders it.  :->

Sibelius has the two tripletizer lines running parallel on the same line!  It looks hideous!

:nwc)
229
General Discussion / Re: Grace note positioning bug
That would be the equivalent of layered, only without layering.
Layering would be one staff on top of the other.

In the same system, what Adam wants, would be something like the two staffs of a piano.
Got it?
230
General Discussion / Re: Smallness
To make a shorter example, if you set User 1 to NWC2SDTA, size 14, you could do the following:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Text|Text:"a"|Font:User1|Pos:-1|Wide:Y
|Clef|Type:Treble|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Text|Text:"b"|Font:User1|Pos:1|Wide:Y
|Clef|Type:Bass|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
(I can't get the bass clef perfectly lined up.)
233
General Discussion / Re: NOTE SPACING PROBLEM
Generally when I do that, I use ties, so if I were you, I'd do it like so:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:F#,C#
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:4^
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:-3,4|Opts:Stem=Down
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
235
General Discussion / Top Staff Excluded Positioning?
In the same piece as all my other woes, I am once again limited by NWC2.  Under visibility, it has Top Staff only, but no Top Staff Excluded.

This is useful in multi-part scores where the parts are also printed individually, such as I have a trill that is the right length in the full score, but it extends a measure further then it should in the individual part.
237
General Discussion / Re: Absolute Positioning for Text
Hi Kahlman,
With a downward note stem, I think you can achieve that by a right justify, at next note/bar, and pad the entry with a blank space or two after it.  Try this:

!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Text|Text:"o  "|Font:User1|Pos:2|Justify:Right|Placement:AtNextNote
|Note|Dur:Half,Dotted|Pos:6^|Opts:Muted
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

I want the slashes centered on the head.
Also, what you have is sort of a backwards version of what I have.  (Graphical Illustration attached.)
239
General Discussion / Absolute Positioning for Text
In a piece I'm working on, I have some flutter-tounging in the flute part.  I use Boxmarks for the the characters, but I can't figure out how to have the middle of the character in the staff.

The best I could get was Best Fit, which had it like so:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Text|Text:"o"|Font:User1|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:Half,Dotted|Pos:6^|Opts:Muted
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Is there a way that I can absolutely position it?
244
General Discussion / Quick way to transpose notes?
I know that there's Tools-Transpose Staff, but is there an option to select some notes and click Transpose Notes?  If there isn't, do you think someone could add it?
246
General Discussion / Glissandi
How do you make a Glissando in NWC2?  I don't mean something like
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-9|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-10|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-11|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:64th|Pos:-12|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
, I mean the written diagonal tilde with the gliss.
247
General Discussion / Possible MIDI Rest Handling Bug-or Feature
I recall that in NWC1.75B, if your piece ended with a rest, it would just end before the rest could finish holding up the piece.  Now, in NWC2.03b, if you do the same thing, it actually holds up the piece until the rest finishes.

Is this supposed to happen?  Or is it a bug?
248
General Discussion / Triplet Barring
I've found an annoyance that occurs when you have a triplet at any time.  You select 3 notes that can be barred, and you click triplet (or press ctrl-t) and it just triplets them, like so:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:0
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
If you want them to be barred (which happened automatically in v1.75b) you have to click barr (or press ctrl-b) to get them barred like the following:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Is it because it's easier to program?  Is it a bug?  Is it a feature?
249
General Discussion / Re: Tilde Display Bug
Okay, the Clarinet Part (not yet transposed) is:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Tempo|Tempo:126|Text:"Allegro Vivace"|Pos:11|Visibility:TopStaff
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Rest|Dur:Half
|Text|Text:"tr~~~~~~~~~"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:6
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:-6
|Bar
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:-1
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatOpen
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:Half,Dotted|Pos:-2
|Bar
|Text|Text:"tr~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:7
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1^
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1
|Bar
|Ending|Endings:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:1
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatClose
|Ending|Endings:2
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatClose
|Ending|Endings:3
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
And the MIDI Controller Part is:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Tempo|Tempo:126|Text:"Allegro Vivace"|Pos:11|Visibility:TopStaff
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Instrument|Name:"Clarinet"|Patch:71|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127|Pos:0|Wide:Y
|Rest|Dur:Half
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Rest|Dur:Whole
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatOpen
|Rest|Dur:Whole
|Bar
|Instrument|Name:"Clarinet"|Patch:71|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127|Pos:0|Wide:Y
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Ending|Endings:1
|Rest|Dur:Whole
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatClose
|Ending|Endings:2
|Rest|Dur:Whole
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatClose
|Ending|Endings:3
|Rest|Dur:Whole
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
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General Discussion / Tilde Display Bug
I have a notated trill which is notated as the following:
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|Text|Text:"tr~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"|Font:StaffItalic|Pos:7|Wide:N|Justify:Left|Placement:BestFit|Color:0|Visibility:Default
I have a triple repeat, and whenever I scroll to the right, it magically extends into the second ending, but when I scroll past that a bit, it goes back to where it should be.