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General Discussion / Re: Request help to update links in older posts

2018-02-10 06:56 pm

It looks as if you can edit your old messages to change the links. Just locate the message, hover over More... beside the Quote button, then select Modify. You'll get a yellow warning about it being an old message, but that didn't stop me the other day from 'replying' to a 9 year old posting, so it probably won't prevent you from editing the message itself.

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General Discussion / Re: Silly notation

2018-02-07 09:42 pm

I'm mostly protesting about composers, arrangers, orchestrators or copyists who are too lazy, ignorant or inconsiderate to take the time to engrave instrumental parts that are easy for the musicians who must play them to read.

My extract is from the bass clarinet part handed to me to play, not the score used by the guy at the front of the room.

My point is about being kind to the musician who has to sight read your music. We'd rather read a practical part than one that is theoretically perfect. If there's a pitch issue due to using the enharmonic notation, most wind players are capable of modifying their intonation to make it sound right.

In this 681 bar chart, the key changes frequently and many times you're working in keys you don't use often in the band world. Running through strings of notes like this, trying to remember which key you're in at the moment, can be challenging. Why not just write the enharmonics, even though they require accidentals, if the performer will find it easier to read?

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General Discussion / Re: Silly notation

2018-02-07 01:41 am

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User Tools / Re: suggestion: enharmonic reversal user tool

2018-02-05 08:07 am

Thanks!

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User Tools / Re: suggestion: enharmonic reversal user tool

2018-02-02 08:55 pm

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User Tools / Re: suggestion: enharmonic reversal user tool

2018-02-02 10:02 am

Thanks, Bill, now I see what Reply 4 says.

Just to make sure my question is clear, in this sequence

the F double sharp on beat 2 becomes an accidental G natural, but beat 4 must also be transposed to G natural, without displaying a visible natural sign. The user tool will need to detect beat 4 and transpose it as well.

Beats 3 and 5 have now become unmarked G naturals due to the change in beat 2.

The user tool needs to be able to automatically add a sharp accidental to beat 3, because finding double sharps later in the score could be challenging.

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User Tools / Re: suggestion: enharmonic reversal user tool

2018-02-01 09:35 pm

Does/will the tool should adjust double sharps and double flats as well?

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General Discussion / Re: Fixing Transposition Playback Issues

2018-01-23 11:36 pm

Quote from: William Ashworth – 2018-01-23 06:27 pm

...An aside: are Rick and I the only ones who use Score Review? I rarely or never see it mentioned in other people's posts.

I use it occasionally. When I need it, it is helpful.

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General Discussion / Re: Quick rest insertion/note deletion and lyric placement

2018-01-23 08:33 am

SEBC asked

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Is there a quick way to delete copied information and insert rests when I am creating a layered part. For example, I might only need additional harmony on the last verse and chorus of a long piece. What I have been doing is copying an entire staff, pasting it to a new staff, then adjusting the sections that need new harmony. This works fine for printing a layered score, however, if I want to print just that harmonic part, then I should really have just rests instead of another sections' notes. Is there a quick way to accomplish this?

Since SEBC also says

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I am so computer illiterate!

, it may be that HMMueller's solution is a bit too technical.

It seems to me the answer is fairly very simple. Just highlight the measures you don't need in the new staff, and press {Delete}. Then replace them with bars full of rests with visibility set to Top Staff Only. It's only a few keystrokes and shouldn't take more than five or 10 seconds to accomplish the task.

Going back to basics, to create the rest, assuming it's a whole rest you want, select {1} on your keypad, and press {Space} to make it.
Highlight it, press {ctrl}{E} to open the properties box, and select Visibilty = Top Staff Only. Now press {Tab} to create a bar line. Highlight these two elements, press {ctrl}{C} to copy them to your clipboard, move to the right of the bar line and press {ctrl}{V} as many times as you need.

This assumes you've placed the new staff lower in the score than the original one. When the two staffs are layered, these rests in the new staff will be invisible. On the other hand, when the new staff is the only one that is visible, it becomes the top staff for the purposes of printing so the rests will be printed.

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General Discussion / Re: Performance Notes

2018-01-21 12:19 am

Exactly.

The line break is created with [enter] so you'd type your notes directly into the Comments field.

The field seems to be limited to about 60 characters by about 20 lines, so the performance notes couldn't be terribly loquacious unless the field could be made larger.

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Object Plugins / Re: PageTxtMaestro.nw

2018-01-19 08:44 am

I'm not a composer, just an amateur musician who often needs to notate parts to move them around, change clefs or and/or transpose them. I've been using NWC since 1996 and was invited into the beta test group for version 2 back around 2002, IIRC.

At that time I was creating a library for my new rehearsal band, so I was copying out a lot of jazz scores. NWC had its limitations but still met my needs - I was looking to print working parts, not to publish anything. NWC was far easier to work with than Finale. In fairness to Finale, I never really set my mind to learning it because I usually found it meant consulting the less than clear manual for certain tasks that I already knew how to do it in NWC.

So I've been around a long time and have no aching desire to use any other program. For a few years I was spending many hours a week notating music, but not so much nowadays.

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General Discussion / Re: Proofreading process

2018-01-19 08:28 am

Quote from: SEBC – 2018-01-18 09:45 pm

I’ve been pondering my process for proofreading. It’s not very systematic ...
Questions:
What is your step-by-step process for checking all the elements in your scores?...

Since most of my notation is copying out music so I can transpose it, I usually just read the original hardcopy as I listen to playback.

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General Discussion / Re: Performance Notes

2018-01-19 08:20 am

Is there any reason this feature of the Information window couldn't be changed to allow printing?

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Comments:
Any comments that you wish to make about the composition can be made here. This can be used as a running record of your compositional or performance process associated with the song. This information is not included on any printouts of the song parts.

If it could be printed, perhaps performance notes could be placed here.

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General Discussion / Re: Are multiple margin settings within a page possible?

2018-01-15 05:23 am

~~If you're asking if it's possible to have uneven right margins, other than the last line on a page, I think the answer is no.~~ (Learn something everyday, even things I forgot.)

If you're asking if it's possible to change the number of bars appearing on any particular line, the answer is yes. Just force a system break on the bar line where you want the line to break. Thus you can have, say, six, seven or eight bars on many of your systems, and one, two, three, four or five on the others.

To force a system break, highlight the particular bar line and press {Ctrl} + {E} to open the properties window. There's a check box there to click.

Forcing a system break only works on the top visible system. A score for, say, eight parts has eight systems. Normally in printing parts, you would hide all except the one(s) you want to print. So now, if you're printing the third kazoo part by itself, you can force its system breaks. If you print the second and third kazoo parts together, the system breaks must be set in the upper one.

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General Discussion / Re: which template has been used?

2018-01-11 10:19 pm

Not every problem needs a technical solution. Why not just save each template to a new file name? IE,

WoodwindChoirTemplate1.NWC
WoodwindChoirTemplate2.NWC
BrassQuintetTemplate.NWC

When using any of your templates, just be sure to save it to a new file name immediately after opening so you don't overwrite the template file.

It also seems fairly easy to use a file name to show which template was used. Just embed the template name or an abbreviated version of it into the file name when saving the composition:

WCT2-MaryHadALittleLamb.nwc
MaryHadALittleLamb (WCTemplate2).nwc

Of course you could save each type of file to a new folder instead...

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General Discussion / Re: Cut and paste all staves

2018-01-10 10:58 am

How would you deal with hidden staffs?

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General Discussion / Re: creating "flat" files

2017-12-31 06:56 pm

I think you'd probably start with a graphics file template consisting of your decorated borders with a big blank space in the middle for the music. Make the template read-only so you don't alter it by mistake.

Simply print your NWC music to a PDF file - any number of programmes do this with the Print command and redirecting the output to a PDF file instead of the printer. If you have Windows 10, just set the PDF programme as your default printer.

Then copy the PDF image to your graphics template, and save the file with a new name.

You could instead get fancy and use an html file with fancy graphics as a background, and a frame for the notated music, then either project the html page onto your screen or take a screen shot and feed that through the projector, but it's more trouble than it's worth.

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General Discussion / Re: Review of NWC on my blog

2017-12-30 06:48 am

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Speaking of font sizes, is there a list of standard sizing for different types of composition?

Rick is right. As a rule of thumb, however, I suggest a minimum staff metric size of 16 if your music is going to printed for older musicians.

Eyesight dims with age. Most of the guys in my band are over 50, many over 60, a few over 70 and even a couple who are 85. They need to be able to see it to play it. I've also printed at size 18 when I had one fellow who had particularly poor vision.

A bigger staff metric means using more paper but you can sometimes compensate by reducing your upper and lower staff heights with {F2}.

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Object Plugins / Re: Ottavamatic.ms (2.0)

2017-12-28 12:45 am

Point taken, Mike. And certainly the automated ways are to be preferred over workarounds.

It's been fun today. Thanks everyone for participating. Now I'm off for the final turkey dinner of the year (urp!).

(The next one is Jan. 1 when we'll experiment with cooking a frozen bird without thawing it for days on end.)

Happy holidays to all (I missed saying Merry Christmas, sorry...)

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General Discussion / Re: Share with Finale or Sibelius

2017-12-28 12:37 am

Photoscore is bundled with Sibelius too, or you can buy it stand-alone. Kind of pricey, though. http://www.neuratron.com/photoscore.htm

Googling "music scanners" turns up other music scanning software as well. The first one I found is a rebundled SharpEye, but about $20 less expensive than what I mentioned earlier. Another is an app called PlayScore - there's a free version and the pro version seems to be very inexpensive. I don't know if it works well.

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General Discussion / Re: Review of NWC on my blog

2017-12-28 12:20 am

Neat trick re [F11], Bill, thank you!

I suggest a couple of minor changes to your forthcoming PDF:

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To insert a spacer, press the <Insert> key on your keyboard. Repeated presses will increase the width of the spacer...

The insert key allows you to insert a spacer or increase its width. To reduce the width, select the spacer and edit it ([ctrl][e] or [alt][e]) by using the horizontal spacer width window.

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A system break ... has to be placed on the top staff of the score.

should say top staff in the edit window. You don't always want to display or print the top staff in the score, for instance if you're printing parts.

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...look first at the last system. If it contains only one or two measures, you will probably want to try to get those measures up onto the previous system. If it contains three measures or more - but still looks bad - your fix will probably involve bringing one or more measures down from the previous system.

Even when the score is justified, the last bar often won't extend to the right margin. To make it do that, add a section close bar line at the end of the last bar and change its properties to forced system break.

If you end up with some awkwardly stretched bars in the last system, so back 5 or 6 bars and force a system break there. Do it again 5 or 6 bars earlier, and so on, if needed.

(A little off topic - generally I stagger the number of bars per system to help the eye move to the next line when reading the printed part. If the systems all have the same number of bars, it's easy to skip a line when reading a part.)

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General Discussion / Re: Share with Finale or Sibelius

2017-12-27 06:54 pm

Sharpeye is at http://www.visiv.co.uk/index.htm

I clicked a couple of the "buy" links today and was surprised at how pricey it is now. I seem to recall it was quite cheap when I bought it, but now...

I suggest checking the prices on the various distributors' pages. Sharpeye sends you to one that charges US$169, another link sells it for US$199; I didn't bother checking the others.

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Object Plugins / Re: Ottavamatic.ms (2.0)

2017-12-27 06:41 pm

I have the free version of Finale, but only use it to work with files I receive that are in Finale format. I find Noteworthy far easier to work with and it does most things I need.

One thing you should remember is that the object plugins or user tools or whatever are simply ways to automate processes you can otherwise do manually with simple workarounds.

For instance, to play a note an octave higher or lower than written, you could simply copy the entire staff contents to a new staff, and mute the "target" note in the original staff. Make sure both staffs have the same properties, and in the new staff, move the target note up or down an octave. Mute every note in the new staff except your target note, then hide it. When you play the score back, you'll hear the first staff for everything except the shifted note, and you'll hear the shifted note at the pitch you want.

I don't know if "8ve" is legit; I don't recall seeing it before. Traditionally it's 8va for an upward shift and 8va basso for a downward shift. Loco can be used when the octave shift ends. A quick Google search shows 8vb is starting to be used, and one source said 8va bassa instead of 8va basso but I didn't see 8ve. You're better off sticking to accepted terms if your score will be used by others.

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General Discussion / Re: Review of NWC on my blog

2017-12-27 06:22 pm

I'm not sure if SEBC is asking for help or just asking for a comment to be added to the blog. In case it's a call for help, on the top visible staff, press the ] key and select Force a new system. Since this only works on the staffs that are in the edit window, you'll need to add it whenever you hide the top staff and add it to the first visible one. But that's OK because each part has its own optimal page turns.

If the forced page breaks cause some bars near the end of the page before the break to stretch out too far, just add a few system breaks in the last 20 or 30 bars on that preceding page.

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General Discussion / Re: Clefs and Octaves

2017-12-12 10:36 pm

The transposition function does the entire active staff.

If you want to transpose just a few bars of your music up or down an octave, just highlight the notes you need to change and use {control} and {shift} together with either the {up} or {down} arrow. Seven keystrokes will move you one octave.

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Tips & Tricks / Re: Banjo chords

2017-12-11 09:12 pm

Try googling banjo user groups. There are a few authors of books on banjo playing, as well as a banjo user group. Perhaps you can track down one or two experts there.

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Tips & Tricks / Re: Banjo chords

2017-12-11 10:25 am

I don't play banjo, but I understand they come with four, five or six strings. Might I suggest separate plugins, one for each type of banjo. Complicated, yes, but if the programming isn't too difficult, perhaps the plugin names could include the number of strings?

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General Discussion / Re: Marking places in score for Editing

2017-11-27 08:43 pm

Rick's solution is better than mine, but for a quick fix, I enter an ugly text item in a large font, usually red, at whatever place in the score I want to come back to, then use {Home} {End} {Ctrl-Left Arrow} and/or {Ctrl-Right Arrow} to move back and forth fairly quickly back and forth until I spot it. I might just put the mark on one system, or I might enter it all the way down the score, depending on my mood and needs of the moment.

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General Discussion / Re: Fake master repeat open

2017-11-27 08:35 pm

I support Mike's suggestion.

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General Discussion / Re: Share with Finale or Sibelius

2017-11-13 10:22 am

I just finished a big project using Sharpeye. Worked well as always. The link you probably want for converting the MusicXML output to NWCText is https://www.niversoft.com/products/xml2nwc/#conversion

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General Discussion / Re: Buglet in printing?

2017-11-03 10:23 pm

To me, the best feature of Noteworthy is that it is so easy to learn and use. While so many active users have created wonderful scores, its market is novice musicians. The fewer "watch-fors," the better.

While I agree it would be best to always use a conductor staff I'm with Peter. I suspect many of our fellow users don't think to set one up. I don't; usually I find it too finicky and if it's at the top of the score, Visibility = Top Staff Only in the top staff of notation isn't going to work.

It would be ideal if everyone knew to never collapse the top staff, but we don't (until we struggle to figure out why something went wrong). Where an instrumental part for two players is mostly unison except for a few sections, or the chart has a repeated section where the repeat differs from the first time through (very common in old marching band sheet music), why should it make a difference if the top or the second visible staff is collapsed during the unison sections?

My suggestion would help idiot-proof this particular visibility setting.

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General Discussion / Re: Buglet in printing?

2017-11-02 08:01 pm

Thanks, Opagust! I figured it could be my mistake, and your answer made me look carefully (with the benefit of a night's sleep) at all the boundary changes. Sure enough - my mistake.

Here's what happened:

All rehearsal letters were initially set to Visibility = Top Staff Only (the image I sent shows Letter F in Staff 1 is Visibility = Always but that was because I tried changing it to see if it cured the problem) .
The problem was that all the other boundary changes were in the Staff 2. I made the mistake of entering the Boundary Collapse before Letter F in Staff 1 instead of Staff 2. So at Letter F, the score printed Staff 2, not Staff 1. In Staff 2, the letter was Visibility=Top Staff Only.
Moving that last Boundary Change to staff 2 solved my problem.

This was my mistake, but perhaps it wouldn't have happened if the top visible staff, in this case Staff 2, were treated as Top Staff for the purposes of the Visibility=Top Staff Only. Something for the wish list?

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General Discussion / Buglet in printing?

2017-11-02 08:10 am

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Object Plugins / Re: Acciaccatura.ms (version 1.1)

2017-10-06 01:02 am

Quote from: William Ashworth – 2017-10-05 05:57 pm

Hidden grace objects (notes and rests) take no time. This is so they can be used to help shape slurs without affecting playback.

Doesn't the marker shape slurs now?

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General Discussion / Just in time for school

2017-09-04 04:03 am

This came from the Community Music discussion list. Kinda fun.

Have you ever wanted to read music in just two minutes?

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General Discussion / Re: créer ses partition

2017-08-22 11:24 pm

Peut-être que vous pouvez l'avoir dans le Scriptorium?

Et peut-être inclure-t-il un message indiquant comment une personne peut copier et coller des sections du manuel d'utilisation dans divers services de traduction en ligne pour les lire dans leur langue préférée?

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General Discussion / Re: Enharmonic Spelling - Note Entry

2017-07-05 08:17 pm

NWC's strength has always been that it is fairly easy to use; complicating the Audit Accidentals function could hinder its marketability.

I'm probably displaying my ignorance once more, but I'd be careful with assuming that a sharpened note is the same as the next higher note flattened.

That's probably true on tempered pitch instruments (piano, organ, electric keyboard, vibraphone, etc.) but not necessarily on unfretted strings, or brass or reed instruments.

I sometimes am told there is a difference between Gb and F# or Bb and A# for string instruments depending on whether the progression is ascending or descending. I suspect that is because the fingers fall in slightly different positions on the neck as they run up or down a scale, but since I don't play strings, I'm guessing.

I'm often told brass players prefer flat keys and reeds prefer sharps. As a reed, I couldn't care less, as long as the notation is easy to read when sight-reading (I prefer flat accidentals in descending passages and sharps on the way up, as long as these are consistent with the key signatures - don't give me a sharp accidental in a flat key or vice versa).

Jazz and pit orchestra charts often use accidentals to avoid cluttering up a bar [in this sequence, # G, nat G, # G, nat G, # G 3 fewer symbols are needed when you write # G x F G F G ]. You don't want to override that with an automatic process such as ""make sure all G#s lead up and all Abs lead down."

Similarly, you don't want to have an automated process cause stupid notation - example: low D# instead of Eb for the bottom note on a traditional bass clarinet. Non-orchestral bass clarinet parts until recently have not normally been written below Eb below the staff. It's jarring to encounter a low D# because it was seldom written by professional copyists. [The evolution of the instrument is changing this - the modern professional and very expensive horns have an extended range to wrtten C below middle C, and some composers now write for this extended range, but they're still uncommon. Notation software is changing this too, since composers often just whip out the parts without paying attention to their playing customer.].

Changing the accidentals audit function could just complicate matters.

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General Discussion / Re: Writing large scores + voices - NWC is, I have to say, a very good program

2017-07-04 11:59 pm

I've drawn Guade Oide Zeid to the attention of two concert band leaders and hopefully one or the other will play it. Maybe both. Thank you for including bass clarinet (my baby in one band). I will probably transpose that for bassoon and baritone sax, which we have in both bands. We don't use an Eb clarinet, but again, the part can be transposed for another instrument.

Keep up the wind orchestra work. There are thousands of community bands and wind orchestras in North America that need new music, and this sounds like a good march.

Do you plan to put Argentina Marsch in the public domain too?

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User Tools / Re: Audit ties

2017-06-27 07:45 am

Cool, thank you for doing this. I think it will be useful.

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General Discussion / Re: Persistent (stuck) notes

2017-06-18 07:03 pm

Quote from: Rick G. – 2017-06-17 07:28 pm

About an hour to figure out the problem. A mistake I shall try to avoid in the future.
I should have just assumed that muted tie destinations were the problem. It only took about 15 minutes to find them.

Time well spent on behalf of the rest of us, Rick. Not having used muting after tied notes in the past, I've now learned something. Thank you.

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General Discussion / Re: Persistent (stuck) notes

2017-06-14 10:06 am

If a tie starts on one note, it's supposed to end on a note of the same pitch. If the ending note isn't there, it used to be there would be a stuck note.

I don't know if this changed in the last few years, but thought I'd throw it in just in case it's still an issue.

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User Tools / Re: Number notation tool

2017-05-12 08:42 pm

Quote from: Bart – 2017-05-11 10:01 am

... number notation transposes everything to C major (or A minor),...

The sample on the Asian language site defined 1 at the beginning. I imagine that means 1 could be defined as any note. If so, perhaps the modulation could be handled simply be adding a new definition later in the score.

The more I look at the Wiki article, the more I scratch my head, but that's probably because the theory is beyond my ken - many things are.

(Despite all my comments, Opagust, more power to you. I have questions about the system, but I have no problem with you creating a tool for it. Mike, I buy what you say, too.)

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User Tools / Re: Number notation tool

2017-05-10 07:36 pm

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I suppose if the tool has passed muster here and at least one or two people can report it works correctly for them, there shouldn't be a problem listing it in that article.

I'm not sure I agree. I would think that a programme (NWC) only supports another (number-notation) if it can exchange information accurately between them (Open or Import AND Save As or Export).

NWC uses double sharps and double flats, and number-notation doesn't. An NWC-generated staccatto dot will be misinterpreted by the number-notation system as well, unless care is taken to change the location, weight and perhaps shape of the symbol

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Special attention has to be paid on the staccato dot since it looks like the octave changer...

So it would be wrong to suggest NWC files can export a file accurately to number-notation.

As to inputting, have we seen anything that allows NWC to import or open a number-notation file?

The Sibelius plug-in seems to produce decent output to numbered-notation (see http://www.slsgzs.com/jpcj.html), but that example doesn't include double sharps and flats. I also can't tell if Sibelius can read numbered-notation.

To add a reference to NWC in the Wiki article would mislead users, and I strongly suspect would result in few, if any, new NWC users.

I would never suggest that Opagust shouldn't continue developing his tool, but I'd hate to see Eric distracted from his further and continuing development of NWC.

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User Tools / Re: Number notation tool

2017-05-10 08:31 am

I thought this was an interesting statement in the Wiki article:

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The same system or very similar systems are used to some extent in some other countries such as Japan (with 7th being si), Indonesia, Australia, Ireland, the United Kingdom, the United States and English-speaking Canada.

I've lived in English-speaking Canada my whole life, have been reading music for about 55 years, and have never encountered this system. I must lead a very sheltered life.

But then, I don't think I ever noticed guitar tablature until encountering it in this forum some years ago.

I don't feel a compelling need to learn the system, but more power to you, Opagust.

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User Tools / Re: Number notation tool

2017-05-08 09:41 am

I'm not sure I understand the purpose or usage of number notation, but that doesn't matter.

I gather a whole note is created with a plain number followed by three dots and a half note is a plain number with one dot following it.

Does this type of notation provide for double sharps and double flats?

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Object Plugins / Re: RepeatMark.ms 0.3

2017-03-29 03:33 am

Sounds good, Mike.

I truly appreciate you making this object/tool - and so promptly as well.

My band has a 352 bar arrangement of 20 tunes from 100 years ago but the parts are oversized second or third generation photocopies that have faded and are somewhat tattered, and we don't have a score. So I thought I would make a score and printed parts on letter-sized paper. As you can imagine, many parts (horn, trombone, tuba, etc.) use a lot of repeated bars so this object is really helpful.

Many thanks.

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Object Plugins / Re: RepeatMark.ms 0.3

2017-03-28 11:30 pm

Hi Mike I haven't tested the newest changes yet, but if this one

Quote from: Mike Shawaluk – 2017-03-28 12:53 pm

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Inserting a new object will clone the parameter values from the nearest previous object in the current staff.

Cloning such things as the vertical position of the label or the amount of spacing is good, but I'm not sure if you also mean the label (the bracketed number above the sign) used in the previous numbered repeat symbol.

I could have many repeated bars in a row, but I'd only want to number them so often, i.e. (4), (

, (12) etc. I wouldn't want the (4) to show up in the next measure, which, if numbered, needs (5), nor in the later bar in the series where I only number, say, every 4th repeated bar.

I'm looking forward to trying the object again, but it will be a day or two before I can get to it.

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Object Plugins / Re: RepeatMark.ms 0.3

2017-03-28 12:08 am

Today, I've been using the RepeatMark.ms a lot.

Since everything in the bar the sign goes in is hidden, it's hard to find the "handle" to adjust the RepeatMark.

For instance, when I've got several repeated measures, I may only want to number every fourth one. To do that, I'd copy the first hidden bar with added spacers and the repeat mark as many times as I need, then edit the third, seventh, etc. symbol to add integers. If the handle is at the beginning of the bar, it's hard to select, and if it's in among the spacers, it's hard to select. It would be nice to have a bigger handle to select.

Perhaps Mike, would you also consider adding yet another option, please? It's a little hard to figure out how many spacers you want, and where to place them. If the object included a user adjustable number of spacers right before and right after the repeat sign, it would be nice. A default value might be 10 might be good, but there could be a better value, as long as there's something.

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Object Plugins / Re: RepeatMark.ms 0.3

2017-03-27 12:32 am

Elegant and works like a hot damn. Thank you very much, Mike!

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Object Plugins / Re: RepeatMark.ms 0.3

2017-03-26 10:32 pm

Yes, I found and installed the ( ) icon before offering my suggestion to amend the Courtesy Accidental explanation.

I do think the explanations need to be clear and complete, even at the Beta stage, so those of us who try to help by using the Beta versions have a fighting chance.

Beta testers like me don't test all the enhancements when they are first announced. We only get "into it" when we eventually have a use for a new feature, which may be weeks later. Should we be in the Beta pool? I think so, even late contributions should be helpful to the Noteworthy team.

That's my rant. My suggestion is that Help and explanations should be user-friendly and clear at the Beta stage.

Right-clicking the noteHEAD works (thank you for telling me) but Help doesn't say that unless you can read the writer's mind. It says applied to an individual note via its right click menu. I think many users will highlight the note(s) then right click, getting what I described.

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