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Messages - Peter Edwards

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General Discussion / Re: Transposition
Whoops - I meant the other way round. A Bb instrument sounds a Bb when a C is written. So the transpose should be down two semitones.

And the same applies in the next paragraph too! You need to move the notes up from the C instrument to the Bb instrument.
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General Discussion / Re: Transposition
You need to transpose the Bb Trumpet Staff. Select the MIDI tab in Staff Properties and transpose up 2 semitones. That's because a Bb instrument sounds a C when a Bb is written.

You can also use NW to transpose the whole staff by automatically rewriting all the notes shifted by a particular interval. So if you write the staff for a C instrument and then transpose the staff down two semitones (making sure that "Update Staff Playback" is checked, then you'll get a staff written for a Bb instrument playing back at the correct pitch. And if you look at staff properties you'll find that the staff transpose has been set correctly to achieve this.
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General Discussion / Re: Multiple Staff Cut & Paste
No, there isn't, but one trick yu can use to make sure you are pasting the right bits is to change the colour of the section you want to move, and once it's been moved and lined up properly again you just change it back.
507
General Discussion / Re: Notes that hold over because of glitches
I think the behaviour of a note tied to a muted note must have something to do with ones soundcard. My experimaent showed that the note did not start sounding until the muted note was reached, and then cut off at the right point! But I don't understand why you would want to mute the last note anyway. Just hiding it should be sufficient to produce the hanging tie. Indeed if you chorded the hidden note with a rest, then you could make the hidden (ringing) note as long as you like.

There is, as you point out, a bug with the placement of the whole note rest. It should appear in the middle of the bar (and normally does), and a hidden grace note or two shouldn't change that.
508
General Discussion / Re: Lyrics Placement
None of the behaviour you describe is what I see!

Start with a blank line - upper and lower staff sizes are 12 each.

Add a lyric line - lower staff size goes to 16.
Add another - goes to 20.

So you shouldn't be having a problem there.

And your observation about offsets doesn't work for me either. Extraordinarily enough setting the offset also resets the lower staff by the same amount in the opposite direction, leaving the lyrics exactly where they were. Weird!
509
General Discussion / Re: Stem Length for Beamed Notes
The rule is simply that the stem length stays the same as the crotchet stem for as many tails or beams as it will take (probably up to demisemiquaver but that is however somewhat a matter of opinion). Then the stems are lengthened just enough for each additional flag/beam.

I've wished for an improvement here in the past, and who knows, if we all shout loud enough the Good Fairy could well appear and grant us our wish.
510
General Discussion / Re: Colour printing
Choose Staff/Properties/Visual/Color. This is normally "Default" but can be set to a "Highlight"

You can set notes, bar lines, dynamics and text items etc to a different colour too, but be aware that note beams and lyrics take the staff colour only.
511
General Discussion / Re: Please help me : How do I do to write an accord? (several notes
Insert the first note as usual, then position the cursor to the right of the inserted note on the line (or space) where you want the second note and press Control and Enter. carry on this way for subsequent notes.

You can have up to two different note durations in the chord, but this is handled by writing two chords at that staff position, one stem up and the other stem down, and these two chords can't overlap.

You can also write a chord with a rest - just insert the rest first - but, for reasons only known to Noteworthy, the duration of the rest must be shorter than the duration of the chord notes.
512
General Discussion / Re: Appoggiaturaa and accacciaturas etc.
Grace Notes look like appoggiaturas but are implemented as acciaccaturas.

Multiple bar rests are not implemented directly. You can fudge them by hiding the multiple bars and inserting text items from fonts such as boxmark2.

Tremolos aren't implemented either, You can fake them with hidden staves playing what you want, and text items showing the proper markings.
513
General Discussion / Re: Transposing
Well you can transpose everything you see and then read it in bass clef, but treble clef is the de facto default. Every (nearly) song for any voice is written in/on it. Hymn tunes are always written in/on it. Forgive me for asking, and I don't mean this unkindly, but have you never, as a self-confessed musician, ever come across the treble clef before?

Somehow I doubt it. It strikes me that it would be easier to adapt to the situation than to try to change it. After all, not all music comes in NoteWorthy form ready to be transposed.
514
General Discussion / Re: Melodeon Chords
The easiest way is to duplicate the staves and pitch bend one of them slightly sharp. If you send me your email - click on blue name above - then I can send you a file which shows how.
515
General Discussion / Re: Melodeon Chords
You also have to ensure that the chord is playable. On the push you have C G D and B, and on the pull C Emin A and D. And of course the root note is on a separate button from the chord so you can have interesting inversions.

Once you have checked whether the chord is playable I would suggest that you enter the six chords as chords somewhere, either in the score itself, or in a separate window, and then cut and paste using ctrlC and ctrlV.
516
General Discussion / Re: 2 pieces in the same page
The first problem is not easy to solve. The safest is to export both pieces as placeable metafiles and insert them into a word processor.

The second can be fudged by finding out the staff position that is most nearly central on the top line of your printed output. Then insert a centre justified text expression with a large vertical offset value.
517
General Discussion / Re: Da capo - 3 times
With some trickery.

Set the staff ending bar to Master Repeat Close.
Insert in this order just before the closing bar line
3¬  (hidden)
DC al Fine (you might want to right justify this)
123¬ (hidden)

Insert the Fine as appropriate.
519
General Discussion / Re: How can I line up text elements?
The main problem would seem to be that preserve width is checked for all you text items. This means that they will take up space on the staff and can't share it with other text or notes etc on the same staff.

For a chord letter select alignment at next note and preserve width off.
520
General Discussion / Re: Pitch bend
I couldn't get this to work on my SB Live, but on an unknown card in my work machine (Compaq) the method seems to be

1. Set the Pitch Bend to maximum (-8192 0r 8191). This represents a semitone when combined with the MSB, so for a perfect fourth you'd set the MSB to 5.

It seems to work with successive MPCs so needs resetting. I shudder to think what happens with other MPCs on the same channel. It's also, possibly, soundcard dependent, but if it isn't than it could be quite useful.
521
General Discussion / Re: bug report
A grace note lasts the same length of time as a demisemiquaver (AFAICT) so if you put twelve of them before a crotchet then four of them actually sound after the note has finished.

But I agree it would be nice to have some control. You can fake it to some extent by tying grace notes together (two tied ones take the same time as two untied but only sound once. If you make all but the last invisible then it looks right on print-out too.
522
General Discussion / Re: size of staves
I think Carl means force system break. This breaks the line at the bar line in question. If you put a section close bar line as the last thing on the top staff and set force system break in properties then the last system is spread evenly over the page.
523
General Discussion / Re: Entering a note an octave lower with a midi keyboard
If you want a note low in the bass clef then insert a bass clef with octave shift up - select a clef and look at its properties to see what I mean.

Now a played note will appear an octave lower than it would have done - i.e. in the position you wanted. Then just delete the clef and it sounds and is written an octave down from your keyboard note - QED
524
General Discussion / Re: Writing for Drums and Percussion
Fred of course is quite correct about the channel - I plead old age and incipient dementia.

Walter, if you go Fred's route (and inherently I've never been a fan of duplicated staves since it's twice the work ;-( ) then you have one staff for show and one staff for business.

Chacûn a son goût I suppose.
525
General Discussion / Re: Writing for Drums and Percussion
You can achieve both at the same time by layering lots of staffs, all on MIDI channel 16.

Notate the instruments as you would like to see them, one per staff, and then transpose each staff to the correct MIDI pitch. Judicious use of clef (invisible unless Bass) with octave shift up or down will reduce the transposition ranges.

Once you have them sounding right, layer the whole lot into one staff.
526
General Discussion / Re: WAV File Import?
The only sounds that NWC produces are from MIDI events, so you'd have to put the WAV source into a Sound Font as a sample and load that into your MIDI card.

Rather you than me ;-)
528
General Discussion / Re: Clarinet Transposing
The rule is that the written note C actually sounds as the Name of the instrument (although you have to watch octaves). So a Bb clarinet transposes a C down two semitones, An A clarinet down 3 semitones. There's plenty of material about it in the forum.
529
General Discussion / Re: No Sound !!
Two instances of NWC loaded, or some other sound producer  ( e.g. NWP) and NWC loaded simultaneously?
530
General Discussion / Re: Beaming
Strange keyboard you have! Control+B does indeed beam notes, whilst Control+A adds another staff!
532
Tips & Tricks / Courtesy Key Signature Change
NWC doesn't put a courtesy change of Key Signature on the preceding system when the change is at the beginning of the next system.

An almost foolproof way of achieving this automatically is to insert a double bar line (as is required at the change of key signature), then the key signature, and then an invisible single bar line.

If the change occurs in the middle of a system then the invisible bar line has no effect on the appearance, so does no harm, but if the system breaks at the invisible bar line then the double bar and key signature will appear on the system above with an open end to the staff, and then the key signature is repeated as normal on the next system.

The only time this fails is when the system breaks at the double bar itself, but that will happen comparatively rarely. The invisible bar isn't counted and doesn't upset the bar numbering because there are no notes or rests between the two bar lines.
533
General Discussion / Re: How much change needed before original copyright doesn't apply?
The piece you are copying is out of copyright. The publishers copyright only applies to the publishers printed version (and that may well be out of copyright too), not the notes themselves, so as long as you don't physically copy (i.e. photocopy or scan) the piece of paper from which you are copying then youare quite safe
534
General Discussion / Re: Orchestral score
Yes, that would definitely be a useful enhancement. Perhaps we could have the option too of whether the staves have connecting barlines (as in orchestral groups and piano) or bar lines just on the staff as in vocal music.
535
General Discussion / Re: Transposing
Yes, it's just made the charts.

From/ToConcertSopranoAltoTenorBaritone
Concert +2+9+14+21
Soprano-2 +7+12+19
Alto-9-7 +5+12
Tenor-14-12-5 +7
Baritone-21-19-12-7 
Sorry, couldn't resist having a play.
536
General Discussion / Re: Orchestral score
As I suggested - play around with Grand Staff staves. Once you have an Orchestral staff you will always get a pair of thick and thin vertical lines on the left, but you can turn Ochestral into Upper/Lower Grand to get braces.

If you want to brace the top staff and retain the Orchestral curlique then you will have to add an extra layered Orchestral staff above the top staff and this (exceptionally) will have to be padded to the end of the score with hidden whole note/bar lines.
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General Discussion / Re: Orchestral score
Adjacent staves with Orchestral style will have their bar lines connected. If you want a break then insert a Standard staff at the break point and layer it with the next staff. If it also has an open ending then you don't need to put anything on it.

There's nothing you can do about the joining line on the left hand edge of the staves except a bit of playing around with Grand Staffs
538
General Discussion / Re: when writing more than one voice on a staff, why...
I suspect that you'd write that as an eighth rest followed by an eighth note chorded with an eighth rest, but that's not possible either: rests have to be shorter than notes in chords. For why? You'll have to ask NWC: I can't see any reason at all why this can't be done.

The work round is to use layering.
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General Discussion / Re: Piano Score - Printing
Not quite! if there is a system break then you won't get the clef on the next line until you restore the real (unhidden) one. You still need layering to get round that one.
544
General Discussion / Re: My MIDIs
Schubert did indeed write triplets in 3/4 time, but he didn't mark them as such. We just need a way to suppress those pesky 3s.
545
General Discussion / Re: Chords
Use Control + Enter. You can only have a maximum of two note durations in a chord, and you can't intermingle them (e.g. minim E, crotchet G, minim B is not possible). You can build up more complex chords with staff layering.
546
General Discussion / Re: About the product package...
Oh dear, I thought. I've got it installed on four machines (possibly more if you count old 1.3 installations on unused machines) but I never use more than one simultaneously, so I can't see why this should be a problem. Except it doesn't conform with the license terms. So am I being a bad boy?

Well actually not. I bought a new license (ergo the proud owner of two) on the grounds that the original license had my credit card name and that's what appeared in the <name> bit and wasn't what I wanted. The new version shipped on the CD promptly disabled replacing <name> with my name so I was not best pleased, but at least it makes me legal.

So two questions: Is it too terrible to install NWC on your Home, Laptop and Work computers?

and: please can we have the substitution for <name> working again, or at least change the blank template so that it doesn't appear?

Peter

PS The spell checker doesn't like CD

PPS The spell checker doesn't like PS!
547
General Discussion / Re: How to connect staves in SATB + piano score?
Vocal parts don't normally have the bar lines connected since they would otherwise break up the lyric lines. For SATB without Piano I make the S and B staves Orchestral which gives a nice thick bracket at the start of each system, but which doesn't extend the ordinary bar lines.
548
General Discussion / Re: redirection
Insert SE1  at the start of verse one and MRC at the end of verse one. Similarly for V2 and V3. You can hide any or all of this and put cosmetic text in to show the flow.
549
General Discussion / Re: ACCIDENTALS
But I like the idea of forcing accidentals while keying in the notes from a Midi keyboard. Then you can fix up/audit bar lines and accidentals later.