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Messages - Ertuğrul İnanç

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General Discussion / Re: quarter tone
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You're probably talking abut my "Accidentals". It's been in beta test. Drop me an email and I'll send you the latest release. (Click on my name for the contact information.)

Regards,
Ertugrul
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General Discussion / Re: Microtonal notation
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Hello earthmonkey,

I made a font called "Accidentals" (still WIP) that includes almost all accidental marks used in microtonal notation. If you drop me an email (see my profile), I'll send you a copy of the latest beta.

It works great in notating arbitrary accidentals (with the help of the extra accidental spacing feature) but using pseudo-key signatures is still a pain in the fingers. :(
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General Discussion / Re: Just wondering...
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Clear your cache/temp files, hit reload twice (shift + reload in Mozilla/NS) and you must be seeing the new stuff then.

Hope that helps. :)
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Tips & Tricks / Re: Making a catalog of your NWC files
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Batch commands (for %n in...) and batch files, even batch commands in batch files can be involved. ;)

In that case, replace the > (greater than) operator with a double one >> for your outpu files not to be overwritten at each time.
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General Discussion / Re: Should I wait and buy when 2.0 comes out?
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The release date of v2 has not been announced yet. It's in the early stages of public beta (private beta lasted for two years :o), thus it's not feasible to wait for an indefinite time period.

Get 1.75 so that you can join in the public beta test of the upcoming version. ;)

Btw, welcome to the online NWC community. :)
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General Discussion / Re: adding a staff for obligato
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NWC 1.75 doesn't curently support it internally but it's pretty possible once you export the print preview as metafile and edit in a suitable program.

Robert A. is the authority in such cases.
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General Discussion / Re: voice
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If my correlation between "ses" and "voice" is correct, then I can confirm that there are really decent singing teachers (amongst many crappy ones to avoid) in the area where "ses" possibily is from. ;) They're usually from conservatories but not essentially working/teaching at them.
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General Discussion / Re: Note names
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We follow a different nomenclature (closer to the N. American) but it's hard to write here (TR).

Email can be sent if the interest is high enough.
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General Discussion / Re: Percussion
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Correct me if I wrong but there must be an issue there. AFAIK, Aud!ğy uses ch.10 for percussion, like L!v€.

A L!v€ user...
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General Discussion / Re: Doubel Flats And Double Sharps
Even within the 12t "workaround", a -say- G# and Ab will not be played the same, except on keyboard/fretted neck. Especially sensible (leading) notes tend to be played much closer to the tonic (in cadences).

Still, a string player and a brass player would play the same pitch at slightly different frequencies.
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General Discussion / Re: Doubel Flats And Double Sharps
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Theory buff reply:

Start from a note (let's say C) and go upwards with perfect fifths: C, G, D, A, E, B, F#, ... If you go further enough, you'll meet the double sharps. Do the same operation downwards, IOW upwards with perfect fourths: C, F, Bb, Eb, Ab, ... This time, it's double-flats that you'll come up with if you go further enough.

The 12 tone equal temperament is a workaround, which assumes all black notes the same. (Actually all notes are green but that's another story.)

If you have difficulty finding perfect fifths and fourths, use Canadian ones instead, which are rumored to be close enough. ;D

Cheers!
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General Discussion / Re: Audio HQ
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Sometimes, just rebooting solves such issues. Some games especially, have a habit of clashing with the Cr€@t!v€ SB L!v€/Æud!gı drivers. ;)
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General Discussion / Re: Non-Western sounds
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Hi again Dana!

All I could humbly suggest is listening, listening and again listening.

Although I said (and you confirmed) that all near-eastern/mediterranean musics sound alike, there are still "nuances" between various types, some of which dating back to the medieval ages. Let me note that, Greek Orthodox chant sounds much similar to Turkish classical music or religious chant, than -say- Egyptian music or even some styles of Greek folk music. So, you have more sources to familiarize and compare.

Btw, I'm trying to establish some contacts here, in the chambers of the Ecumenical Patriarchate (hint! ;)). You don't have to be composing for cooperation, if you're eager of course! :)

Best,
Ertugrul
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General Discussion / Re: Non-Western sounds
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I've come up with several different implementations of Byzantine Chant. One of them was 30 "tonoi" per octave. I gathered some quick-and-dirty 4-part sentences, with no relation to the Orthodox practice in melody/rhythm/form etc. and they sounded OK to me.

Practically, every music in the near eastern/mediterranean area sound -almost- the same concerning the intervals and melodic structure. However, you can come up with hundreds of different, and even contradicting (with each other as well as the practice) theories.

Anyway... I'd be glad to cooperate in Byzantine music (or else), if you're idle:

ertugrulinanc at ixir dot com :)
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General Discussion / Re: Non-Western sounds
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Hello,

Nice to see I'm not the only "pitch-bend guy" in the NWC Community. ;)

Yes, you should use pitch-bend controllers for each note. A patience-consuming work but worth the results. :) In order to determine which values to use, you need two things:

  • Theorical knowledge about the necessary tone frequencies or cents values about the music you're working on;
  • A program to help you calculate the necessary pitch-bend values.
Taking the first condition a priori, let me attempt to help you with the second. I know of two great programs which can be used exactly for that purpose:

  • Scala by Manuel Op de Coul, which is considered the industry standard;
  • MIDI Tempering Utilities by Fred Nachbaur. Much simpler and more intelligible than Scala. I used it for completing a massive scene music. :)
Not to mention both programs are freeware!

Hth,
Ertugrul
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General Discussion / Re: I'm new
 
Welcome to the community. The newsgroup is here.

If you are having trouble accessing newsgroups, I've uploaded a quick and dirty walkthrough here. ;)

Hth
 
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General Discussion / Re: Pitch bend
 
Ugh! So, what to do for absolute control? How can we use PB for -say- sliding a perfect fourth (5 semitones) with DEMSB?
 
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Version 1.75 Discussion / Re: NWC Version 1.75 + Web Update 8
 
Thanks for the updates. :)

Incidentally, one of my DL organizers was open and caught the download. Worked OK. I can't say I realized a difference between ordinary browser download, when time considered.
 
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General Discussion / Re: newsgroup status
 
It comes and goes. Downtimes may last up to one hour or more. The same problem also occurs with the soundfont newsgroup (news.silco.com) though more rarely.

Down now. :(
18:20 GMT
 
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General Discussion / Re: Beam selected notes
 
Regarding #3,

Staff Layering had been an experimental feature during the public beta testing of v.1.70 and then was permanently aded to the program, IIRC.

The lack of dual direction beaming was what I had suffered as early as I was trying to typeset 4 part chorales (for harmony practice) in v.1.3x. It required a lot of time that I started exploring NWC again (v.1.5x). ;) Well, I was *that* type of a person those times. :)
 
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General Discussion / Re: MusicXML
 
NoteWorthy is the former name of Music Publisher, produced by Braeburn Software (Bernard Hill).
 
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General Discussion / Re: 8va, 8vb
 
It's a two step process, for visual and audible effects:

  • Insert your 8va, 8vb or 16va whatever as text expression. Use your favourite font;
  • Insert a hidden clef with octave shift. Watch out for system beginnings. You may need to add extra "fake" clefs --as text from NWCV15 font or elsewhere.
HTH. Ask again if it won't ;)