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Messages - Warren Porter

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General Discussion / Re: Multiple Repeats
Use local repeat barlines.  On the local repeat close, you can specify how many times.

Attached is what I use to tune my fiddle.
952
General Discussion / Re: 2 note tuplet
I think the original poster wants a doublet when triplets are the norm as MusicJohn pointed out.  On a hidden staff, use dotted eights notes and on the visible staff, use ordinary 8ths separated by hidden 16ths.  See attached.
954
General Discussion / Re: spoken words in sheet music
First of all, upgrade to NoteWorthy Composer 2 Beta Test Program.  You will have your choice of regular noteheads, X's, diamond shaped, or nothing.  Once you get NWC2, just place the notes at a convenient point on the staff such as 2nd or 4th line at the appropriate rhythm.

Let me be the first to "welcome you to the club".  You will find most people here friendly and helpful.  One thing though: "Tips & Tricks" is where people post techniques, tips, and workarounds they discovered which they think will be helpful to other NWC users while "General Discussion" is where users create "How do I ... ?" posts.  You might find this thread moved over there in the near future.
955
General Discussion / Re: Glissando
Look for gliss.nwc in here for a working example. "You will need to inspect the hidden staves to see how it is done."
956
General Discussion / Re: What is better with NWC2?
I second what Lawrie noted and add that objects in a NWC2 file can be copied or cut to the clipboard, manipulated, and returned.  Also, the entire file can be exported and imported as a text file where a good text editor can help you make similar changes throughout the file in just a few keystrokes.
957
General Discussion / Re: Boxmarks and the like
There are a number of things it could be.  You can try choosing placement "at next note/bar" instead of the default, "best fit" for example.  Sometimes you need to specify "preserve width" when entering text with the boxmark font.  Could you attach an example?

HTH
958
General Discussion / Re: Rejoice in the Lord Always
The better known composers already have many of their compositions transcribed into NWC, but there is a good chance Rathbone's compositions haven't been.  Should you wish to transcribe this work, a google search of "mozart requiem nwc" will give you a number of sites which would appreciate your contribution, giving you appropriate credit. Foremost among these is the Scriptorium whose updates are regularly posted in this forum.
959
General Discussion / Re: NEWBIE
I second Tony's suggestion of looking at the Command Summary, but would also suggest you look at (after starting NoteWorthy) Help menu or F1 key, then choose Getting Started.  I also found the exercise of doing "Jingle Bells" quite helpful but I couldn't find it in any help file, just in my version 1.70 User's Guide which came out in 2000.

At any rate, play with it for a little while and remember the F1 key is your friend.  You can catch on to the bulk of what you need to do very quickly, but when it starts to get hairy that's what this forum is for.

Welcome aboard!
960
General Discussion / Re: NWC is good. Will it become great?
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
As for the "one click" option for printing, I don't have an easy alternative...  However, when I print parts for the works I produce I don't think that this would work for me...  I have all kinds of staves that I overlay onto each part that NWC couldn't reasonably be expected to know about - it would be just easier for me to keep using it the way it works now.
Often a tempo track will be used, filled with hidden bars and rests, but containing visible tempo indications, rehearsal symbols, and other objects which need to be on every part.  Keep it on the bottom since other parts will be layered into it and the name of the part (rather than "Tempo") will appear on the top.  Check this user tip.
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User Tools / Re: Clip to Text File
Rick:
I installed your EditClip.vbs and for the Command part of the User Tool Description have the following:
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WScript Scripts\Editclip.vbs "C:\tse32\e32.exe"  %temp%\1.txt /file:%temp%\1.txt
It brings up the highlighted part of a staff in my editor, but changes I make are not reflected in the score after I save and exit from the editor.
964
General Discussion / Re: User tools in other languages (Semware)?
Many thanks for the feedback.  Right now I have to
  • Cut the objects I want to the clipboard.
  • Invoke a shortcut key to bring up TSE doing my nwc macro
  • Choose what I want to do
  • Paste the clipboard back into my NWC score at the current insertion point
I used the "Wedge" a lot recently (Swingdings is user font 2), but since nwctxt has been introduced, I don't think I need the triplet option on the menu since it can work on the entire score.

My source code is here.  To use it download to \tse\mac and rename to strip off the ".txt". My shortcut runs the following code:
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C:\tse32\e32.exe -enwc
Quote from: Rob den Heijer –
I wrote my own "tripletize" in TSE, but I combined it with other actions that I need to do on Midi-imports. Now that we can work on whole scores, the workaround using TSE starts to pay off.
I would be interested in seeing it.
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General Discussion / User tools in other languages (Semware)?
Thus far I have seen user tools in php and vbs.  Can other programs also manipulate the clipboard after being started by a user tool?  I am thinking specifically of The Semware Editor (TSE) but other programs might be used as well.
966
General Discussion / Re: Silly notation
I am also a string player and when sightreading would reach up for sharps and down for flats and would probably finger the identical piece differently for, say a F# vs a Gb version.  While I prefer to see accidental flats in a flatted piece (vice versa for sharps), if the opposite accidental prevents the same note having many accidentals in the same measure (like chromatic passages), by all means do what works.
967
General Discussion / Re: Change frequency of note throughout score
This could be automated to some extent using NWC 2 if you either have an editor with macro capabilities or can program.  NWC2 can export to and import from a text file (*.nwctxt) and while manipulating that file you can determine what note and duration it is and what type of mpc pitch bend would be necessary.  Do this "by hand" on a test score and export it to see what type of codes need to be generated to adjust the pitch and reset it at the end of a note.  Your program/macro should first check to see if a pitch bend line has already been created so it would leave the next note alone.

This method will not work on chords unless the same thing has to be done to every note in that chord; you would have to create new staves if necessary.  NWC2 already has a tool to remove the top or bottom note from a chord.
968
General Discussion / Re: Noteworthy vs. Finale
Also to consider is the wealth of music already converted to NWC and on the internet.  Just place "mozart requiem nwc" in your search engine for example.
969
General Discussion / Re: How to put a rehearsal symbol at front of a line?
Quote from: Peter Edwards –
Isn't that what I suggested in the first place? I'm bemused.
Sorry I didn't acknowlege that.  At that time I hadn't thrown in the towel about putting symbols on the barline.

Quote from: David Palmquist –
I've added some more staffs with two other tricks that you might find meet your needs too.
Thanks.  I have to ask what did you do to make 121 number the notes on Staff-1?
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General Discussion / How to put a rehearsal symbol at front of a line?
I am trying to put rehearsal symbols in a part I'm working on.  In the tempo staff (layered into the part I am trying to print) I am doing a shifted "[nn]" in boxmarks and placing the text at the next note/bar.  If it falls in the middle of a line in the preview, all is well.  Where the next rehearsal symbol will be on a line break, is there any way to force the symbol to be after the clef and key signature on the next line?  Of course, there is no way to tell if the symbol will be on the end of a line until print or print preview.

TIA
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General Discussion / Re: Multiple Bars Rest
Quote from: Southern City Fan –
The only problem is that with Noteworthy 1.75b and with hand written music i can save space by making verses of bars rest a single bar with the number on top. I have not been able to do this in V2 and am wondering wether it is an intentional removal of the feature or i if the method of doing it has changed
I'm not sure what you mean by verses of bars.  Plugging in "multi measure rest" in the search bar upstairs finds a number of examples, but they didn't disappear between 1.75 and 2.??.

Please elaborate further.
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User Tools / Re: Working Tremolos
Just tried to install it but got an error
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Line 14
char 3
The handle is invalid
80070006
(null)

Following lines in edit of orig. message:
Tried again while running NWC2 and the user tool.  Error at the same place but the error message was "input past end of file".
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General Discussion / Re: Can't put NWC files on personal website (semi-off topic)
I don't have any problems with extra CR/LF's coming into a binary file--until recently I was able for others to read any NWC files on my site.  Also, the ".s" files are text anyway used to manipulate NWC clipboard info and could be adopted to work on nwctxt files.  The problem is the files seem to disappear completely if you try to open/download them.

I have had error messages in the past when trying to download a NWC file which had been uploaded as text and the NWC program tried to fix the problem, but this is not the problem here.

I don't have the option of doing a "chmod" on my files.  Also, while working on other parts of my site I have a null index.htm file at the root level.  I'll try hiding that file and trying to look at again, but I am not optimistic.  All I know is this worked the way I had it until just recently.

AAR, thanks to all for looking at it.
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General Discussion / Can't put NWC files on personal website (semi-off topic)
I have a personal website which has a few NWC files as well as .s files for a text editor I use:
http://bellsouthpwp2.net/w/b/wbporter455/nwc2/.  Using my FTP program I can view all of these, the "s" files are text and the NWC shows up as "[NWZ]" followed by "random" characters.  Unfortunately, no one else can see any of it.  Chasing the "404" error comes up to this site: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/248033.  What do I need to say when I call? 

TIA
980
General Discussion / Re: Quintuplet Problem
Quote from: smelin5 –
Warren, your edit makes absolutely no sense :P
I was trying to show there was either a missing bar line or a missing 12/8 time signature.  Also, pure quintuplets or pentuplets need to be accompanied by a temporary increase in tempo by a factor of 5/4 while objects in other staves need to be lengthened by a quarter.  Here it was just a matter of adding rests until your bar lines matched and hiding the newly inserted ones.

I also like William's solution to your problem, which seems to not use quintuplets at all.
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General Discussion / Re: Timing or Mathmatical Problem
Quote from: William Ashworth –
Please open a multi-stave file in Noteworthy. Now, under the file menu, choose "Page Setup." Click on the tab at the far left, labeled "contents." You will see two text boxes, one labeled "groups" and the other labeled "visible parts." The "visible parts" box will contain the same number of lines of text as there are staves in your score. Each of these lines will consist of the name of one of the staves, plus a checkbox at the left end of the line. By default, each of these is checked. If you uncheck any of them, the staff it corresponds with will disappear completely from the screen. Vanished. Kaput. Gone. But it will still play during playback.
Good point.  This is already done in your "Samples" folder:  Look at Moonlight.
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General Discussion / Re: Question about how to put notes on one line instead of 2
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
One proviso on this is that both sop. and alto are treble clef and both tenor and bass are bass clef.  If there are any differences in clef you'll need to correct 'em first.  I.E. transpose one of the voices.
You will need to put the tenors on a bass clef which are probably now on a shifted down treble clef.  After replacing the clef, do Home Shift/End to select the whole staff.  While holding down Cntl & Shift, push the Up arrow 5 times.  HTH
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General Discussion / Re: Nwctxt to Harmonica Tab
I don't play the harmonica, but my career was as a programmer and have manipulated NWC data from clipboards before nwctxt came along.  One suggestion if I may is to examine the nwctxt files before and after you insert your output as lyric text.  Your program, instead of just creating a text file you (or a user) would have to insert back into the lyrics, would create a new nwctxt file.  In this simple scale:
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NoteWorthyComposer(2.0)
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:"<Name>"|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:"Copyright ⌐ 2007 <Name>"|Copyright2:"All Rights Reserved"
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"
|Lyrics|Placement:Bottom|Align:Standard Rules|Offset:0
|Lyric1|Text:"Do re mi fa so la ti do\r\n"
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:Common
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-6
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-5
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
!NoteWorthyComposer-End
the lyrics would be inserted just after the "AddStaff" command line.  Those two lines were missing before lyrics were added.

HTH
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General Discussion / Re: Lyrics disappear from midi file.
Rick:

Once again, many thanks.

I'm starting to think some questions of mine on midi are bordering on off-topic for NWC.  Can you suggest other online resources for just midi, not directly related to NWC?
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General Discussion / Conversions of MPC's on imported Midi's
I tried to import this file http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/b/wbport/nwc2/house_ri.mid into NWC2, but there are a number of wrong notes in the "tenor sax" part.  Converting the original midi into text gives something that looks like this sample:
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3:176 |On Note	 | chan= 4   | pitch=D 2	 | vol=121
	204 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=464
	212 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=1456
	220 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=2528
	228 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=3392
	236 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=4432
	244 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=5312
	248 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=6256
	256 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=7280
	264 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=8191
	336 |Off Note	 | chan= 4   | pitch=d 2	 | vol=0
	368 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=6800
	376 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=4784
  14: 1:  4 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=1680
	 12 |Pitch Wheel | chan= 4   | bend=0
Is there any way to keep the pitch wheel (or other commands) in MPC's intact?  This comes out when the NWC version is re-exported: http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/b/wbport/nwc2/house_ri1.mid

TIA
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User Tools / Re: Inline editing of user tools
I renamed my scripts to end in ".txt" and are visible now.  Still need to check with Ma Bell about what the problem is with nwc files. These were written to work with material from the clipboard so they might need to be modified to process a nwctxt file.

www.wjporter.com/nwc.
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User Tools / Re: Inline editing of user tools
I had the same problem, I could see the files in IE but couldn't look at or save them unless I was in my FTP program.  Until I can look into it, here is the triplet.s code:

Removed by author.
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User Tools / Re: Inline editing of user tools
Quote from: John Ford –
I presume by TSE, you mean "The Semware Editor".  I've used it since it was QEdit (TSR under MS-DOS) and have upgraded ever since.  Best text editor I ever used and it's macro and repeat ability makes it a breeze to edit anything that has some sort of pattern to it.
I've also used it since my 1st computer in 1991 and have macros to convert midi triplets to real ones, change the duration of a piece, and remove digits from text on the system clipboard.  The last one was useful in removing measure numbers from sung text but with the addition of insertion points in the text coinsiding with where it is in the score, the last one may not be needed anymore. www.wjporter.com/nwc
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General Discussion / Re: poor viola!
Just a few observations if I may:  Rather than a trio you have the viola and cello accompaning the violin.  Also the viola is asked to do impossible things such as play below its lowest open string (2nd space C on bass clef) and hold a triad for an entire measure.  Even a major 2nd is quite difficult to reach and play in tune unless one of the notes is an open string.  When more than two strings are played in the same chord, the chord will be rolled; i.e. the bottom and middle notes would be grace notes while only the top two notes would be sustained.

It had a good melody and I'm looking forwards to the revision.
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General Discussion / Re: MIDI volume level being raised?
My speakers already have a volume control on them as well as a place to plug in headphones.  My problem is the "SW Synth" volume gets turned all the way down by something and NWC falls silent.  Perhaps something to check on that as NWC gets started?!?
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General Discussion / Re: How to fade out in repeat of last few measures?
Many thanks for the help and insights.  Attached is the [glow=red,2,300]final[/glow] version except when done on a webpage loop, the 2nd time is the oboe introduction alone.  I tried to insert mpc's in the 3rd ending to reset it, but the newly exported midi version still doesn't fly.

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General Discussion / Re: How to fade out in repeat of last few measures?
Many thanks for the excellent suggestions.  I am still tweaking this version (from a midi) so it will be as faithful a reproduction of Marianne's version of this song as my wife will be singing it at her class reunion and I may be providing the string(s) after the 1st verse.

Once again, thank you.