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101
General Discussion / Re: Wanted: alpha testers for guitar tablature font
Such a grid already exist in boxmarks font (or is it boxmark2?). Along with a "+1", which allows 4 strings (one char), 6 strings (another char), and combinations (banjo or bass 5 strings: 4+1; guitar 8 strings: 4+4 or 6+1+1, etc)
But it's not so advanced as the FretQwik font. Robert, maybe you could simply add these two 4string and +1 string chars? (but then, what about taiko and balalaika?)
And, of course, Thanks for that font :-)
HTH!
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General Discussion / Re: New Upgrade
Regarding faq #89: Fred, or NWC support, I'm ready to bet that there is only one byte to modify (per syllable probably) to change the Text Meta Event used by .kar files into the standard Lyric Meta Event.
If it is the case, and if I knew how to locate that byte(s) in a .kar file, I could write a "converter" from the first to the second. Where could I find such information?
(...) I've sought myself, and found (among many others) that http://www.midi.org/ is a good reference site :-) Particularly !http://www.midi.org/about-midi/smf/rp017.htm and http://www.midi.org/about-midi/table1.htm ; but it didn't answer my question...
However, it's highly possible that changing this would lead to strange results regarding lyrics!
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General Discussion / Re: Last System always extended
Maybe is it because your last system is already one full-page wide :-)

To check this, try to set the page in Landscape instead of Portrait (or vice versa), then play with the "extend last system" value. (You may also try to force the one-before-last barline to "force system break".)

If there still is no difference, then maybe you have another staff somewhere which may be longer than the others? (just supposition here, I've not tried that!)

Or you have an extra barline, with "force system break" checked. Usually, when you check/uncheck the "extend last system" checkbox, only the last measure is extended. If you see no difference, it may be due to this.

HTH!
(And we all would be glad to know what was the problem, it would help other people that may encounter the same trouble) :-)
108
General Discussion / Re: How to make it fit?
Oops! Thank you Peter. D# major would have 5 sharps and 2 double sharps... which is too much for me!
So the correct list is: C, C# or Db, D, Eb, E, F, F# or Gb, G, Ab, A, Bb, B or Cb. Sorry!
109
General Discussion / Re: how to download a MIDI from a web site
about right-click: sometimes it's not accepted when done with the mouse only. Here is how to do a right click without the mouse:
1. select the link you want (with TAB key, or with the mouse: left button down on it, then move nearby, then release the button)
2. use the "right click key" (if a W95 keyboard): the one with a small contextual menu on it (just between the RIGHT "Windows" key and the right control), or use Shift+F10.

The popup menu should appear (sometimes in the upper left corner of the window or screen).

There are other ways, but it would be much more off-topic ;)

Back to topic (NWC): "right-click key" works wonderfully with NWC :-) (Shitf+F1° doesn't)
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General Discussion / Re: print text (arial) instead notes
It seems that the printer doesn't receive the information font properly.
I guess it's a laser one.
In the various options (it changes from printer to printer and manufacturer to manufacturer, or even driver), try to find where there are options on: 1. sending TrueType Fonts; 2. Optimization on TrueType Fonts; 3. automatic substitution on TrueType fonts.
Try various settings, one change at a time!

You may try to create a PDF or EPS file, too (search the forum and user tips for this), but it's harder.

Hope this will help!
113
Tips & Tricks / Re: Use Colour to Help With Editing Staff Layers
If the number of staves that you have to set back to black is not so small, then instead of changing the color of the staves, you may want to change the colors themselves:
Tools/Options, Editor tab (Alt+Home), then change the Highlight1,2,3 to black (double click on them; normally black is the left+low most color. it's also 0,0,0 in RGB values, or 160,0,0 in HSL).
/!\ : this is not undone by the Undo operation.

Otherwise, changing a staff color to Default is a good candidate for macro automation:
F2, Alt+Home, Ctrl+PgDn, Alt+C, D, Enter, PgDn
That's it!
And it's undone (staff by staff) by Ctrl+Z!!    B-)
114
Tips & Tricks / Re: Timbres of Instruments on the Percussion Bank (ch.10)
Thanks Ertuðrul for this hint.
Alas, on some sound cards it doesn't change anything. I tested on a Compaq (ESS AudioDrive), and I obtained the same sound (I tested with various notes, unsuccesfully).
But ESS is most known as being a poor card, worse than an SB16...
However, one must know that (as with MIDI results in general) this may not sound the same on various sound cards.
But I'll try to use it if I can, since it gives much more possibilities! Thanks again :-)
115
Tips & Tricks / Re: Fine-tuning the horizontal space occupied by music
More seriously, if some day you want to find where you placed such white spaces text items, two ways exist:
1. (old way) Start on the beginning of the section you want, then use the following keystrokes: Shift+Right; visual check if a visible item is selected, if not, it's a white space text item that you can delete or edit; Right to deselect it, and continue the same way.
2. (new way, much quicker) Use the Search tool! Either you create a text item as the one you want to find, Cut it, then open the Find... Tool and Paste in it; or you use the following search expression in the Find Tool:
|Text|Text: *
(don't forget the star, or at least the space before it)
P.S. reminder: Find Tool: Ctrl+F. Find Next (when the tool is closed): F3.

Robert, feel free to remove those two comments of mine :-)
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Tips & Tricks / Re: Fine-tuning the horizontal space occupied by music
Spacing between the notes of individuals can be changed by using the zones of dialogue of properties of note.  But end-to grant the quantity of horizontal space occupied by the music, here another manner:

Everywhere where you wish to stretch the notation, to go to the more senior employees and to insert some spaces of text, by using "the preserve width" once that this is installed, you can on several occasions stick spaces while clicking to the place to space, type "X" to bring to the top the text editor, then "enter"

When you install your page "to prolong the last system," sometimes the notes gather to the top with the left.  With additional spacing, they can be increased to fill system more agreeably.

(Translation E->F->E by BabelFish@Altavista, worst being E->F...)
120
General Discussion / Re: How to make it fit?
Hi Angle Tears,
I just tried with 12 staves at size 24, with vertical sizes upper=10 and lower=10, and I can't see any problem (I use A4 paper since I'm in France). How many octaves do you use per scale? With one or too, no problem for me. Maybe the font size of your title (font "Page Title Text") is too big? with a TimesNewRoman Bold 24, it's ok.
You can also play with the margins.

Oh, and why do you say "all 12 keys major scales"? They are not 12, but 15: C, C#, D, D# or Eb, E, F, F# or Gb, G, Ab, A, Bb, B or Cb. (They are all present in NWC.)
Not counting double sharps (how many sharps in G sharp major? cf https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=432.msg10742#msg10742) nor double flats ;^)
To make 15 staves available on A4 paper, you should adjust the vertical size (without changing the "staff size in points"). It's in the Visual tab in the staff properties (F2).

Hope this helps!
121
General Discussion / Re: chord names above the staff
Well, as a last workaround, you still can export the pages one by one into .WMF, and modify it into a graphic editor (just remove the little bar on the left end of the staves).

You may have to do it only once on the first page if you use the trick up above... On the indented first staff of first page (select First System on "Staff Label" in Page Setup)

HTH!
122
General Discussion / Re: 1st Time bars
You may also refer to the samples that come with NWC. all the REPEAT#.NWC are worthy, as well as the other ones.
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Tips & Tricks / Locale: Is there a chart mapping the NWC notes durations to French?
Inspired of faq #79, courtesy of NWA. Thanks for their kind support!

For spanish names (español nombres), please see https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=2501. ¡Gracias Ramón Pajares Box!

In NWCBritishFrench
wholesemibreveronde
halfminimblanche
quartercrotchetnoire
eighthquavercroche
sixteenthsemiquaverdouble-croche
thirty-seconddemisemiquavertriple croche
sixty-fourthhemidemisemiquaver quadruple croche
And for the rests ("silences") versus notes? Here it is:-
In NWCFrench
whole restpause
half restdemi-pause
quarter restsoupir
eighth restdemi-soupir
sixteenth restquart de soupir
thirty-second resthuitième de soupir
sixty-fourth restseizième de soupir
Hope this helps! (En espérant que cela vous aide !)
All remark will be appreciated. Toute remarque est bienvenue.
125
General Discussion / Re: New Comer questions
Q 3. You can create your own templates, simply copy a file to the Templates directory. I suggest you to create it using a new file, and have one staff with the correct clef already inserted, and instrument set. (Staff properties).
Do not forget to transpose it +9 semitones if you want it to sound correct (referring to https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=432.msg1728#msg1728).
For this, in the midi tab of Properties for Staff (quick key F2), set Transposition to 9; in the Instrument tab, set "Alto Sax".
Then save your file in the Templates directory.

You can later modify your template files; open them as ordinary files (which they are indeed).
To create a new file from the templates, just choose "New..." from NWC menu, and select the template you want.

Q.4: here also, I have the impression you made several staves instead of one for your saxo part. If a staff is muted, I can't see how soemthing can make sound in it!?  btw, what do you call "the sax player"??

Hope this start may help!
127
General Discussion / Re: burning CDs
Olivier, Céline Dion and Britney Spears are not similar at all (I'm talking about music), but I think you would do the same anyway. However, there are good songs of C.D., such as "Vole" in the "D'eux" album. The best one (and only one worth, at least in french. Early works are good too), probably because JJG wrote almost all of it...
If you have a nephew or niece around 8-14 years old, ask them about Britney.

Burning CDs is not good. It makes pollution. Engraving them is better (but may be illegal, depending on what you use).

And to reply to question 10: in a CD-burner... With an adequate software (usually provided with the hardware)
128
General Discussion / Re: Beaming notes from bass clef staff to treble clef staff
At the time being, you can't. The notes belong to one staff only, and the beams link notes belonging to same staff.

However, using Carl's advice, you may obtain a visual effect similar to typical piano scores.

Don't forget though that pianists can understand "octave shifting" or clef changes, so you may not need the beaming you ask for.
129
General Discussion / Re: Noteworthy Player
Well, Eunice, you should try to use the browser plug-in instead of the player then. You can pause any time, or go any place in the "song", simply with the slider at the top.

BTW, that was the only way I found to be able to hear all of TAAB... with some interruptions!
130
General Discussion / Re: Alto Notation Help
That's what I call a contrabass ;) (with a 5th string lower then). If he was not the person you mentioned in https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=2160.msg12213#msg12213, then they could do duets :)
However, I do not know any score for such a range, and that's a pity. However, it's still possible to "double-bass", and sing some parts one octave lower. On Desprez's music or Poulenc's, it can be very beautiful; but this has to be done with caution, because it certainly changes the global rendition of the piece. And the choir master, of course, has something to say about it :)
Anyway, the piece I prefer to sing in deep bass is "16 tons", with a final A1 (three ledger lines under bass clef).

Robin: a typical amateur baritone is often the best voice :-)  At least you can learn 3 voices: bass, tenor, and (for hymn or usual songs) soprano...
131
General Discussion / Re: Shave and a Haircut...
"Demain on ra-se... gra-tis!" is the french version, for example used in Roger Rabbit movie.
You can't imagine how music is badly used (or transformed should I say) in France. To have an idea of it, open NWC, close every window in it, and type the following keys:
Ctrl+N Enter Enter Down Down Enter Minus Enter Enter Plus Up Comma Enter Down Comma Enter Space Comma Enter Up Up Up Comma Enter Home F5
and you'll hear it as I too often hear it there...
132
General Discussion / Re: trills
you'll have more details here.
Especially https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=1214 , https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=2061 , https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=1038.

Oh!! And don't forget https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=2245 and https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=2261: You probably should start there first!

Hope this helps!

P.S. I posted a file showing MPC for trills on a website, see https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=2086.msg11657#msg11657 !
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Tips & Tricks / Re: Faking special endings with layering
I understood what you meant by to widen the range of special endings over more than one measure by seeing your NWC example.
Thanks for this tip, I agree that it's more readable like this, even if it may not follow the standard rules.

However, I'm surprised that you didn't indicate 8:4 again at the 2nd ending: logically, this measure should be 4:4, since the last time sig. seen was the one at the measure one (via repeat). Is this an NWC bug, an illogism in the standard or simply my understanding??
It works too by indicating it 8:4 again, so I will do so, as I find this more clear.
134
Tips & Tricks / Re: Echo Effect in NWC
Chorus effect is not present or effective on all midi playback devices, so this approach seems to me the only one for a wide-usable application. Adjusting the length of the rests to make echo is at the will of the users.

I think that if we want a "chorus effect", we may use the same technique; simply change the rests inserted to smaller values (less than a 1/4th of second, or even less).
In the same manner, one can do a "reggae guitar" (or keyboard) by copying a 2nd staff, with the chords just at the end of the note normally played, but this time with a short duration.
135
Tips & Tricks / Re: Accentuating Lyrics (Layering)
Oh, and we can use the same thing to enter special characters too, such as the a with a "_" above it (for arabic into european character transcriptions, for example)
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Tips & Tricks / Re: Accentuating Lyrics (Layering)
Sure it does! :-)
I wanted to suggest to use "standard rules" to center the '>', but in fact it's already done.
Within the browser plug-in though, it appears as if it was "start of accidental/note" ??

Anyway, if the word was "bles-sing", how could we place the > above the i?
(...) I just tested (with bla-mmmmmmming, just for testing purposes), and we can easily move the > to the right by preceding it with one or more non-breaking space(s) (Alt+0160).

To center the > above the i in bles-singly, add Alt+0160 AFTER the >  :)

Quickly said:
   to move the > the right, add Alt+0160 (one or more) before it;
   to move it to the left, add them after it.
137
Tips & Tricks / Measure numbers
Some of us may have to augment the number of the measure; typically after a repeat section, to have a "more logical" numbering.

To perform such a thing, you may :
  • Enter a bar line
    (quick key: TAB or *)
  • Enter a 64th rest
    (quick keys: 6, -, Space)
  • Select those two items
    (quick keys: Shift+left+left)
  • Make them invisible
    (quick keys: Ctrl+E or Alt+Enter, Alt+Home, Ctrl+PGDn, Ctrl+PgDn, N, Enter)
This will add 1 to the measure numbers.
If you want to add more, simply copy (Ctrl+C) then paste (Ctrl+V, Ctrl+V...) the selection as much as you want.

You may want to add a hidden tempo change before and after the hidden measures, to keep playback as accurate as possible.
First add a tempo with a value of 750 (base: Dotted Half) to make all of this as short as possible,
then a tempo with the previous value.

You may also force the line break of the first visible bar line, in order to place it at the beginning of the staff (where you see the numbering)

If there is more than one staff, then copy the whole thing to other staves too.

Oh, and while I'm at it: if you want to have measure which "doesn't count", simply enter a text item (with the pipe "|" character, Alt+124) in a standard font, for instance) instead of a real bar line :-)

Feel free to send me (or add) comments or asking an example!

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I just had an idea to make exactly the reverse thing — I mean having measures with "bar lines that don't count".
Here is how:
  • Start by adding a staff over the highest one.
  • Fill it with measures with a single whole rest you set to "never" display (set the first one to that, then copy/paste it for the others), with the correct "normal" time signatures at the proper places.
  • When you need two measures (for example) that count as one only, insert a time signature that has twice the normal current value (since the example is for two).
  • Delete one measure to keep the same length (two minus one)
  • Don't forget to re-enter the "normal" time signature.
  • When everything seems correct in the Print preview, layer this toppest staff to the next one.
See the linked file to have an example! (I made three "double measures")
139
General Discussion / Re: To trumpets, clarinets and saxophones
No Yves :)
Pour passer de F à E, tu franchis les Pyrénées, ok pour la langue française :)
but in english, to go from F to E, you cross the channel ;-P

Worse: for F to G: cross the Rhin; mais traverse le Rhin, et tu passes de F à A ;)
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General Discussion / Re: Lyrics Font Color
For MPC on trills, you may also go to https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=2082.msg11656#msg11656 :)
Do not forget to look at the information part of the example ;-) (version 1.70)

The last trill (1 tone down, not up as indicated) shows how to use 2 MPCs for more than 4 pitch bend values. The first of the two can be duplicated, but then don't forget to modify the "initial" setting of the second (the first which is duplicated) and of the last MPCs. They both should be augmented by 4.

HTH!
144
General Discussion / Re: Multi Bar Rests
There also exists "tractor paper" without perforation --I mean without the Carroll band being separated.
In that case you can use special folders that are made to store such papers... I think we can still find them, though laser printers seem to be more and more present (but they don't allow 80 chars per line by default, silly)
145
General Discussion / Re: Lyrics Font Color
Well done Wilm :)
for 9 lyrics, it can be done, but you won't be able to play them one by one; at least two of them will be played simultaneously, since NWC currently allows 8 lyrics lines (at first it allowed none, then 4, now 8).
The number of colors, too, is limited to 4 (default, hl1, hl2, hl3); moreover, the colors are not included in the file, but stored in the .ini , so if you want to make them appear the same everywhere, you should "document" it in the information window :)

suggestions: for the trill, you may use MPCs instead, this can save a staff; and/or add a hidden "legato" or "tenuto" performance style, in order to avoir the "attacks" of the sound (particularly for the trill, but with MPCs the problem doesn't occur)

NWCly yours,
HTH
146
General Discussion / Re: Es posible...?
Jubal:
no hablo mucho español, pero pienso que un pequeño bilingüe léxico es muy util. Tengo el mismo problemo para frances.
Si usted lo desea, puedo enviar el léxico que hago en frances-americano para NWC: se puede utilizar como fundamento para uno Español-Americano léxico.
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General Discussion / Re: Es posible...?
Not so bad for an automatic translation :-)

You may want to try Lingo too: http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html which is more versatile, and allow many language-from & language-to combinations, with a "matter" choice (colloquial, medicine, general...)

P.S. Modismo = idiom, expression. It seems that no auto-translator knows this word; facilmente = easily; diario = daily (in that context).

Finally, I have to add the same for french-speaking people, but I'll give more details about this soon (there already is a french-talking maillist). À bientôt pour plus de précisions...
148
General Discussion / Re: Lyrics Font Color
Before adding a second hidden staff:
What if the "lyrics" (colored) staff is the under-laying one, i.e not the one with "layer with next staff" checked? The measure numbers should appear in black, am I wrong? I don't have the time to check right now, but I'm pretty sure of it.

HTH!
149
General Discussion / Re: Lyric refrain problem
Ann,
I'm pretty sure this file (here) can be a great help to you.
I just made it, didn't even hear it but it shows how to have different verses with one refrain. I also added a "cadenza" (a final "Amen!") which you may choose to remove; in that case, the playback will stop after the last refrain.
Here is an extract of the "info" part of this file:
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Based on the SATB NWC template: "This template creates an SATB template using the staff layering feature". For an easy usage, place it in your "template" NWC directory.
It shows how to make 3 verses with different music, using only one lyric line, plus a cadenza which may be removed (in that case, the music stops after the 4th refrain).
The hidden :|| bar lines and number make the flow direction;
the extra bar lines are there for aesthetic purposes and may be changed at will.

Hope this helps!
-------

Feel free to contact me if any questions :)

HTH,
      NWCly yours
150
General Discussion / Re: Staff line indentations
Wow! Thank you!
Yes Peter, we can do it this way, but even when I don't print the title, I enter data in it, such as "Variation 1 of ...", so didn't think of it.
But I think that I'm about to change this habit, since your solution is neat! And, btw, the comments in the "info" window is there for this too... :-)
I suggest you should submit this as a tip, if not already done!