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1954
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium Update
Folks,

A bumper week this week.

Just to let you know that the Scriptorium has been updated with works submitted by :

Richard Woodroffe   Violin Concerto in E, (Mendelssohn)
Bob  Darby       Minuet, (Darby)
James R. Jennings   Cantata No. 4, (Bach)
John  Hooper       Harmonie Mass, (Haydn)  Choral Rehearsal
John  Hooper       Missa Sancti Nicolai, (Haydn)  Choral Rehearsal
John  Hooper       Theresien-messe,    (Haydn)  Choral Rehearsal
John  Hooper       Missa brevis St Joannis de Deo, (Haydn)  Choral Rehearsal
John  Hooper       Mass in Time of War (Paukenmesse), (Haydn)  Choral Rehearsal
John  Hooper       Te Deum, (Haydn)  Choral Rehearsal     
John  Hooper       The Creation, (Haydn)  Choral Rehearsal     
John  Hooper       Magnificat, (Vivaldi)  Choral Rehearsal     
John  Hooper       Mass in B flat, (Hummel)  Choral Rehearsal     
John  Hooper       Credo, (Vivaldi)  Choral Rehearsal     
John  Hooper       Gloria , (Vivaldi)  Choral Rehearsal     

http://nwc-scriptorium.org/newstuff.html

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1955
General Discussion / Re: How to put a half rest on top of a whole note on the same staff
You need to put the rest first - so,step by step

Select half note
Select tails up (click on the "tails up" sign or shift & up arrow. Note that shift & up arrow can turn "tails up" off if it was on - it acts as a toggle)
Press space bar to put in the rest
Select whole note
Select tails down
Hold down the control key and press the enter key.

Job done.
1958
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium Update
Folks,

Just to let you know that the Scriptorium has been updated with works submitted by :


John Hooper    B Minor Mass Choral Rehearsal Version    (Bach)
John Hooper    Nelson Mass  Choral Rehearsal Version   (Haydn)

http://nwc-scriptorium.org/newstuff.html

If you would like to be notified every time the Scriptorium is updated, please send me an e-mail  requesting Scriptorium Update notification

1959
General Discussion / Re: Midi File Association
The "Real" series of programs are ******** at doing this. I keep a setup file on my machine, but only for when nothing else will do and I have to watch/listen etc. I then load it up - use it, then loose it - ie uninstall it.

What I suggest you do is to uninstall real player, real jukebox and real download - and any other "real"isms.

Having done that - check that your file association is correct for NoteWorthy. If not try the other options you mentioned to correct it.
When done, re-install Real Player if you really have to, but when re-installing, Uncheck simply everything that is presented to you. Be careful because some of the options are in boxes that have more unseen checked items if you arrow down. When done, if you caught everything during the install, you should still have your association to NoteWorthy. The native Real files will still work - but if you have got it right - nothing else will be bothered by this dreadful piece of software.

1960
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium Update
Folks,

Just to let you know that the Scriptorium has been updated with works submitted by :

Jim Karageanes, 12 Symphonic Etudes For Orchestra (2006), (Schumann)   Updated
Josh Hauck, Caprice No. 24 (Jazz Arrangement), (Paganini)
Stephen  Mattos, Christmas Recessional,  (Mattos)
Marek Gierlinski, Fantasia and Fugue in C minor BWV 537, (Bach)
Andrew Purdam, Parts User Tools Script  (Purdam),  Updated

http://nwc-scriptorium.org/newstuff.html


If you would like to be notified every time the Scriptorium is updated, please send me an e-mail  requesting Scriptorium Update Notification

1961
General Discussion / Re: Making a hymnal
Lawrie's method is also the way I'd do this (and have done when I compiled a small hymn book).

However, in advance of that - If it is in the traditional hymn book style, with the music above (and maybe one verse with the music) and the remaining verses underneath with the verse numbers, then NoteWorthy is not really set up to do this in its own right.

What I had to do was in NoteWorthy, format the music so that it displayed correctly in print preview. Sometimes this really had to be forced using all of the features to make the music fit on about half a page. (Features being system break, point size, margins, reducing the size of the page title text so that the title (hymn number and name) took less space ). You will also need to get the bottom margin right so that it just allows enough room to get the music in. If you have the margin set so that there is a lot of space between the music and the bottom of the print, then you could have problems in the next stage formatting the verses under the music "picture".

Having got that right, copy from print preview and select metafile (version 1.75) or emf file (version 2.00). Put this into your word processor or DTP package. Underneath this you can then format your additional verses.

Having got that right, you can then proceed onto the next hymn that you want on the printed page. Place the next hymn on Page 2. Note - at this stage, these two hymns will be on full pages, one hymn per page.

When you have all of the hymns that you want to print you can then use the method that Lawrie wrote about. In my current system, this is achieved in Word by the following :

Print /  Properties / Page Layout Tab

Select multi-Page and then selecting the number of pages per sheet - in this case 2. You will then get 2 hymns on one landscape page when printed.

It would be very difficult, almost impossible, to do what you want to do without using an additional software package, particularly if you need to format verses as well. Word processing or DTP is the way to go.
1963
General Discussion / Re: A Bit of Fun
So it does ! Didn't notice that before. Good spot.
Looks like a function of Drawing the curves is slightly different for print than for the editor.
1964
General Discussion / Re: Authentication Errors
Hmmmm  Interesting. I wonder just how accurate the computer clock needs to be.

Have visions of suddenly being carted off to nowhere land just because my computer clock is 3 minutes slow.

Just imagine the Rail services announcement "Due to the tardiness of the station clock ...... ". So that's what happens to my train in the morning.

LOL
1966
General Discussion / A Bit of Fun
I fired this challenge off a while ago on the newsgroup - but no-one took me up on it.

Did you know that as well as being a darn good piece of music software, NoteWorthy Composer version 2 is also a drawing editor.
Here's my attempt - anybody else ?

1968
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium files
Rob,
Agreed - but why bother when the plugin won't play version 2 files anyway. You'd then get the situation where some files would play and some wouldn't.
Better to user the Viewer option (IMHO) - until such time as Eric decides how he is going to resolve this issue.

Lawrie,

Follow the link to the NoteWorthy news item in the fourth post in this topic. In the news item, Eric gives details of the registry hack.
1969
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium files
Steve,

Glad it's fixed.

In fact it's good to know that people can have that installed without realising just simply because they've installed it as part of the whole package.

Thanks for reporting back
1970
General Discussion / Re: Control of measure size, etc.
My Son's main problem is the copious amounts of BSODS and the increased frequency of having to totally restart his machine because it won't boot into normal OR safe mode and no rescue / console cd program helps. With just SP1, he had long periods of no problems whatsoever. He was forced to upgrade to SP2 by the latest bluetooth software.

(However - I cannot say that I have experienced those sorts of problems)

1971
General Discussion / Re: Control of measure size, etc.
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ME is NOT an upgrade...  It's a disaster looking for a place to happen. (IMHO)

LOL - I quite agree - I (rather stupidly) bought ME and installed it. It lasted all of one day before I reverted to 98 again. It was Microsoft's attempt to prove that the Millennium bug does exist. That was after it had been out for a while. Thankfully, I didn't upgrade to XP until SP2 was out and so I missed most of the problems (Yes I know SP2 has its own problems but nowhere near ME).
However, my son thinks SP2 has more problems than XP on its own - but since I never used XP on its own, I can't really comment.


1973
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium files
Well if you've installed the viewer and you don't have the plugin, I believe that it should do it automatically.

However, As a first step - Do the following.

Right click on an NWC file on your c drive. You will then get a menu. Select "Open With"
Select Choose Program

If you can see NoteWorthy Composer 2 Viewer displayed in the list then highlight it.
If you can't see it, navigate to NoteWorthy Composer 2 Viewer using the browse key and select that.

Also check the box "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file"
 
This should sort it out. If not, report back here and we'll take it from there.
What the viewer should do after this is detect which version of NoteWorthy Compser is needed depending on the file that you click and then load that version. If you don't have version 2 then it will play the file in the viewer.


1974
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium files
Well it's more obvious to me because I usually get at least 2 emails a month from people asking why they can't download.
So it has become a sort of stock answer !
1975
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium files
Steve,

I think the problem is that you might be using a later version of Internet Explorer and you have the NoteWorthy Plugin installed. Later versions of IE cannot use the plugin. 
If you get a little red cross in the corner when you click on an NWC file, then this is almost certainly the problem.
To see more about this visit http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/news/21.htm

There is a registry hack to fix this problem but this is not recommended - Here are two other solutions. Recommend the second.

1. Use a browser other than IE and then re-install the plugin for that browser - Note that this still won't let you play version 2 files since a plugin has not been released for them.

or

2. Uninstall the plugin. Make sure that you have NoteWorthy viewer installed. Then when you click on a file in the Scriptorium, make sure that the action is always to open with NoteWorthy Viewer.

After this option, when you click on a file, it will auto download into your temp area, load the viewer and play, leaving you free to continue surfing while you listen.
1976
General Discussion / Re: Sending NWC songs via email
Well, I'm sorry but I can't really understand your point. Many of us have pdf creators that we could do that with but the point is that NoteWorthy viewer is also a completely free download, would let your friend see your music exactly as you wrote it and in addition, will let your friend hear your music exactly as you intended it to sound (sound card permitting) and if your friend wants the sheet music, will allow a print out as well.

And I am quite sure that the the size of the pdf version would take far much more bandwidth to send than the nwc file.

I would recommend that you ask your friends to download the viewer.
1978
General Discussion / Re: Importing scanned scores
Perhaps I should make a few other comments.

If you have a good original copy of the music and a good scanner, then Sharpeye is extremely accurate.

The accuracy decreases according to the quality of materials you are using. Occasionally, an accidental is misplaced or ignored or entered when some other marking is on the sheet music.
Occasionally, a note tail is misread causing the music not to balance according to the (already) recognised time sig. However, where the measures do not measure up [;-)] Sharpeye indicates a problem and you can fix it manually before exporting to MXML.

In addition, Sharpeye has a triplet recognition mechanism which means that it recognises these even when they are not marked by a 3.  Where other n-tuplets have been recognised, you will need to make adjustments, either at the Sharpeye stage or in NoteWorthy later on.

I did try to use one of Frank's hand crafted musical manuscripts and although Sharpeye did make a valiant attempt, the work needed to correct everything did not warrant its use under these conditions.
1979
General Discussion / Re: Importing scanned scores
I tried it years ago and abandoned it because it took to much to correct. Having retried it ecause of XML2NWC I was really impressed with the accuracy. I bought it !

There are some slight problems with how it deals with the Grand Staff, but with a tweak, these are fixed ok.
(This is only a problem when using XML2NWC to interpret what Shapreye has done).

All of the note attributes and so on are recognised, as are dynamic markings (if you have the right text options selected).
Lyrics are also recognised (which Nicolas' program converts to a lyric line)

All in all, I have been impressed with the comination of the two.

As long as NoteWorthy supports the music feature, then Nicolas' prog converts it. It ignores features it doesn't understand.

The only real problem I've seen is where there is a non lyric instruction that does not translate to a dynamic. This gets translated into NWC as a form of text that can't be found using the search facility (even though you can see it).

The only way of getting rid of it appears to be a cop of the whole staff and then a paste. Since, whatever it is, is not recognised when pasting, it is dropped.

Rich
1981
Tips & Tricks / Making MP3s of NoteWorthy compositions (and audio CDS if you have a burner)
If you want to make audio CDs of your NoteWorthy compositions, one way of doing this is to create an MP3. After that, most burner software has the ability to burn MP3s onto a CD as an audio track

So what's the easiest way of making an MP3 from your NoteWorthy composition. Well windows (XP)is set up to do it but it just needs a little bit of extra software (don't worry, if you don't currently have the right software, you can get it for free)

Those of you that have Sound Blaster/Audigy cards will already have the right software (Creative Wave Studio will do the trick). For anyone else, you need to download some recording software. (Windows SNDREC32.EXE just doesn't do the job)
A product called WavePad has all you need to do this. You can download WavePad for free from:
http://www.download.com/WavePad/3000-2170_4-10382895.html?tag=pdp_prod

Having installed Wave Pad, at some stage during the process I will outline, Wave Pad will request and install an mp3 encoder. Just allow this when it asks.

So what do you have to do.  Here is the process using Wave Pad. (Creative Wave Studio is a similar sort of process)

Run Wave Pad and minimize for the moment.

Run NoteWorthy (either version) and load the music file you want to convert to mp3. Set up any sound fonts you want to use etc and play the beginning of the file just as a check. If all is ok, go back to the start ready for your recording.

ALT TAB to Wave Pad.
Click New File and select the sample rate you want (44100 is standard). Select Stereo. Click OK
Click the Red record Button - in the record control window presented, on the right hand side, the top drop down should say Default Sound In.
In the second box, select Stereo Mixer (Those who have Audigy or other sound cards may need to select "What you hear" or a similar option)
In the Advanced Record Options, Make sure "Audio Trim Recording" is selected. (Leave Voice activated recording unchecked)
Click OK
Click the red record button.
ALT TAB to NoteWorthy and click F5 to start playing the music.
While you are recording, you can ALT TAB back to Wave Pad to see what it's doing, but remember that it is recording all sounds from your PC. So a critical stop noise (for example) would be recorded.

When the music has finished, ALT TAB to Wave Pad and click stop.
Then click the close window on the record control. Your recording will then be transferred to the main file window.

From there, you can examine the music and select any gaps at the beginning and end of the file, highlight the area and delete.  There are plenty of other things you can do but suffice it to say that you can now do a simple "File Save As", selecting the file type as MP3.  A window will be displayed asking for the bit-rate etc You can just use the default.

Job done !

Wave Pad will also write the file directly to a CD as an audio file if required.
1983
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium Update
Folks,

Just to let you know that the Scriptorium has been updated with works submitted by :

Tim Vermande    Prelude and Fugue in D BWV 532, (Bach)
Daniel  Carrasco    Waltz No 1 Opus 39, (Brahms)
Daniel  Carrasco    Waltz No 4 Opus 39, (Brahms)

https://nwc-scriptorium.org/whatsnew.html


If you would like to be notified every time the Scriptorium is updated, please send me an e-mail  requesting Scriptorium Update Notification
1984
General Discussion / Re: Special opening decoration for SATB
You can only get that bracketing (the bits that are at the top and the bottom) where the very top staff is orchestral and the very bottom staff is orchestral.

The only thing I can suggest is that for the SATB section, you have a bracket in the same fashion as the Grand staff.
(That takes a bit of a fudge as well)
1985
General Discussion / Re: Special opening decoration for SATB
Frank,

Not sure which groupings you mean, but NWC doesn't do every grouping that people want - or at least it does the grouping but not necessarily in the way that people want.

If you saw how you would like your SATB staves in a sample file then if you say which sample file it is, someone will probably be able to tell you how to do it (even if it involves a work around because of the way your file is structured)

In the meantime, if you just want a vertical line running through the SATB staves , then you just need to change each one to an orchestral  style - staff properties - visual tab.

1986
General Discussion / Re: Preview and print problem
Frank says "Cured" .

It was the fact that the very bottom staff had some bar lines missing within a succession of hidden whole note rests. This appears to have confused the the NWC print mechanism so that any following measures with visible notes and bar lines were not printed.

So all's well that ends well and it even seems to have caused Eric to find a bug that no-one else has. Seems to me to be a fairly complex procedure to find that bug. When I tried it - nothing happened. But I expect that I didn't follow instructions exactly.
1988
General Discussion / Re: Preview and print problem
Frank,

If you're not sure how to attach the file here, (or unable to - I cant remember which level of membership can do that), then consider emailing the nwc file to me - I'll have a look and see if I get the same effect on my set up.

We'll then know if it's a function of the actual nwc file or if it's something to do with your set up - say the epson driver - the screen driver etc.

If you click on my name it will take you to the profile page. My email address is there. 
(Off to work now and won't be able to check emails til I return)
1989
General Discussion / Re: Preview and print problem
It has also just occurred to me that you might want to try reducing the staff size points on the page set up. (Click the book and select the Options tab)
This may solve the problem in one go but you will have to put up with everything being smaller. So if you don't want that - then my first suggestion is the way to go.
Can't test this out at the moment though - don't have access to NoteWorthy.
1990
General Discussion / Re: Preview and print problem
It's taken me a while to replicate what you are seeing - but I have.
I now have 14 staves with the last staff dropping below the bottom of the page  below the copyright notice and not showing up in the print preview.

Also, the actual bottom of the page is missing in the print preview.

The only thing I can suggest that you do, for the moment , is to go through each staff and modify the visual properties for the staff so that the upper and lower vertical size is the very minimum that you can get away with for each staff.
This can be reached by  - On each staff without highlighting anything, hold down the ALT key and press enter.
Then select the visual tab. You will find the vertical size there.

I would do this first on any staff that you consider has really too much space between its neighbours. Alter the settings and then do a print preview to see if it has cured the problem. Repeat with other staves as necessary keeping track of which ones you have done.



1991
General Discussion / Re: Importing scanned scores
Can't tell you about manuscripts - haven't tried. But you get 30 days free trial so you could have a go and see.
You would need sharpeye version 2.

You never know - it might work. Depends I guess on how neat your manuscript work is.

Sharpeye accepts eith tif or bmp which can either be scanned in, or existing ones opened.

It prefers the resolution to be in the range 300 - 400 dpi.
1992
General Discussion / Re: Importing scanned scores
A few of us have been using a combination of Sharpeye and a program developed by Nicolas Hatier called  XML2NWC.

Sharpeye can recognise scanned scores and save them to Nif, Midi and Music XML formats.
XML2NWC can then take this XML output and enter it directly into NWC2.

I have been very impressed with the results and they have proved to be far far better than a midi export/import.  This method also passes note attributes, articulations, triplets (which midi certainly can't handle), slurs ties staccato etc

If photoscore can export music XML then there is no reason why this method shouldn't work for you.
1993
General Discussion / Re: Need help with groups
There are some instructions, last updated for version 1.70 but I think the items you want  instruction for haven't changed that much.
If you go to the command summary on the Scriptorium  http://nwc-scriptorium.org/command.html and download sections 2 and 4, these will have the instructions you need.

Section 4, Page 49 deals with setting up groups.
Section 2, Page 24 deals with the Page setup Dialogue.
 
1994
General Discussion / Re: Adding a staff for only a few measures
Quote from: erica56 –
Any tips?

You can have as many combinations of the same value note as you like and you can also have stems in different directions.
You can have up to two differing values of note in a chord. One value with stems up and the other value with stems down
Remember that if one of the note values is a whole note, this has a stem direction even though it doesn't have a stem
You can chord notes with a single rest so long as -
  1) You enter the rest first before the notes  (a rest has a stem direction as well)
  2) The value of the note is more than or the same as the value of the rest (In version 1.75 it has to be more than the rest value)
  3)  If you want the note/rest chord to have articulations, these must be set up before the note is added to make the chord. You cannot add them afterwards.
  4) It is not possible to have two rests in a chord. (If you have a staff for two instruments and you need to do this then perhaps layering is the way forward).
  5) If you want the rest in a chord to be in a different position than where it automatically comes out, then you should alter the vertical position of the rest before you add the note. This effectively means that you can have a chord with a stem up note and still have a rest above the note (useful trick)

Here's a funny for those interested followed by a bit of magic for those interested in that.

Funny.
Create new file and new staff. Hold down ALT and press enter to get to the staff properties.
Go to the visual tab and change the vertical size to something like 25.  Click OK.
Enter a treble clef if you want. Enter quarter rest tail down. Highlight rest
Hold down ALT and press enter to go to properties
In the vertical offset enter 16.  It errors doesn't it. Change the value to 15
Rest moves above the staff. While rest is still highlighted, hold down the control and shift keys and press the up arrow.
Here's the funny - it can go further up than the dialogue box allows so it must be more than the 16 that errored.

OK - On to the magic. (This is for version 2 but can get the same effect on version 1.75 - but the values will need to be different)
With your quarter rest (that you already entered and altered above) enter a quarter note tails up pitch B as a rest/note chord combination. The rest will come down a bit but will still be above the b.
Now enter another B as the next note. (Just an ordinary B, not a chord)
Now, move back and highlight the B chorded with a rest. Hold Down ALT and press enter to get to the properties.
Change the extra note spacing to 3 and click OK.

HEY !!!!!!  Where'd the B in the chord go ?  Magic - it vanished.

I'll leave you to work it out - (Tip in the last step, try something other than 3)

1995
General Discussion / Re: Septuplets
Josh has put them way up high so they can't be seen unless you grab one and alter the vertical position.
Use NWC search facility to find them if you need to. (By Category - Tempo).

This will highlight the first one, then once highlighted - hold down ALT press enter and go to Expression placement.
Change the value of staff position to something like 12 , click ok and you will then see the tempo marking.
2000
General Discussion / Re: How to code rapidly repeated arpeggiation or octave tremolo/
I quite like that idea David. I think there would need to be an invisible time sig as well so that an audit of bar lines did not put bar lines where they are not wanted.

Also the quarter notes sound somewhat staccato so I think, mute them and have a hidden staff with 4 half notes playing rather than the 4 quarternote/rest combinations. This then sounds exactly the same as the quarter notes on either side.