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That's a good tip Rob!

I tried your example and it works just fine like you said.  I went further and added "B&C" in the "abbreviated" box (staff properties) and after adding a few more bars of music, the "B&C" appear as they should in the preview mode.

In effect, your solution works perfectly and seamlessly.

Thanks for sharing.

Tips & Tricks / Re: PDF to NWC
Flurmy, you are right about the topic of the post.  However,  I was commenting about the last line - which I also quoted.
Tips & Tricks / Re: PDF to NWC
To convert a NWC file to pdf you could install Libre Office Writer (free) where you can paste the pictures made with NWC. This program has a button which exports the file directly to pdf.

I use the freeware PDFcreator program, which is essentially a printer driver.  It emulates a standard printer but prints directly to PDF rather than onto paper.  It can be used directly from almost any program, including Noteworthy, that has printing facilities.
Thanks Rick.
That was a great idea.  However it took me quite some time to understand how you did it.
But when I did, it hit me as a simple but brilliant workaround.
Thanks Rich.  That video was very clear and illustrates your points very well - a picture says a thousand words ...  There are two things that I would like to comment on:

1.  Do the Upper and Lower Boundary changes that you illustrated have the same function as the "Upper and Lower Boundaries" that can be accessed from the staff\properties menu\visual tab ?  If yes, is this an alternative way of changing boundaries or there is some enhancement using this new method ? Or is it simply that the old method is now redundant ?

2.  Secondly, I would like to remind people reading this forum that what Rich has illustrated are only some of the more recent updated or new  goodies.  People seem to have forgot other goodies, such as those associated with the Persitant Note Tools and the dotted single and double bar lines for example.  These were introduced when work on the new 2.5 version started and are also very useful.

Is there a list somewhere detailing all changes from ver 2.1 to 2.5 ?  
That's an excellent example on the use of spacers Hymo.  It did not occur to me that this feature can be used to reduce spaces by giving it a fractional value.

Thanks a lot.
Version 2.5 looks like it is a great leap forward in quality. 

Certain features, such as the dotted barline and the special endings features,  are easy enough to understand how and when they should be used.

Others need more experimenting with.  I understand the use and mechanics of the MMRs, but still have to get to grips to fully understand the functions and use of the associated check-boxes in the same dialogue box.

As for spacers and boundry changes - well, I don't understand when they should be use at all, let alone how they should be implemented.  I am completely at a loss here.

I tried to look at Rick's "Hyfrydol" example to have a look at what he has done so as to learn something but I found myself even more confused (maybe I was not supposed to look under the hood).  But the print preview looks fantastic - nothing short of perfect - and I want to learn how to do that too!

It would be wonderful if someone would explain, with some illustrations or simple examples, the effects and benefits of these new features.  One of the reasons why I have been a loyal nwc user is it's simplicity and the fact that I knew how to use it inside out.  Now I feel a bit like a fish out of the water, not knowing where to start with these new features.

Any takers here for this one ?
Yippee!! It works for me as well with Maltese characters!!!  I used the Maltese font called "Tornado" which has been in existance since Win 3.1 (yes, that's right) and set user1 to call this font.  But I had to dig up some old floppies (yes, that's right again) to find the font.

But I still yearn for Unicode compatability.  It's so much easier to use.

Thanks to all.
Hi Lawry,

Thanks for your great work with these fonts.

Do your fonts include the Maltese Characters (dotted c, dotted z, dotted g and the h with a small horizontal bar through its' vertical line) thus : ĠġĦħŻżĊċ.

These can be found in the Unicode character set but alas, Noteworthy does not support that (actually we should be begging Eric not you ...)

If they are not available, will you at least consider if I say "please" ?

Thanks once again for offering us work-arounds.
Let me first state that I am not a computer guru...

Can not a font be embedded in a nwc file just like fonts can be embedded in a pdf file ?  Maybe this can be done with the option of over-riding that when using the composer only.  Would that be breaking copyright ?

Hope I've not opened a can of worms with that ...
Melismata obviously has not yet appreciated the differences between importing midi and importing mxml.
Given the choice, mxml every time (as long as the mxml has been properly constructed).

I must humbly admit that I have no experience at all using mxml.  But I have had experience in importing midi and yes I agree that it is not perfect.  Even so, it is adequate for my needs and I don't mind going over the stuff again correcting what has been missed.
Tips & Tricks / Re: Multi Bar Rests
Yes, but it would be off topic in a User Tip dedicated to "Multi Bar Rests".

You can always start another topic.  Your answer would be extremely interesting to say the least as it gives us the "cons".  So far we have heard only the "pros".
Yes I do.  If I do a "File Save as" then look in the drop down box for type, there is mid,  music xml, niff and wav as well as Sibelius options.

Why do you have to go through MXML2NWCC.EXE at all then (let alone Sibelius or Dolet) ?  Save as mid and import directly to nwc.
Bill, Tony, may both of you live to be (at least) 100 years old!  But watch out: in about 35 years I (hope to) catch up with ya!
Thanks Rich.

I would have never thought of that.  And to think that I used to consider myself as a reasonably experienced user! 

When adding items from (say) the INSERT menu, the Expression Placement and Visibility tabs do not appear first time round.  One has to place the item on screen and then access the item once more to edit it for these two option tabs to appear and become available.  Examples would be when emtering a Text Expression (X) or Performance Style (P) amongst others.

It would be nice if these two tabs appear first time round one is inputting the items as generally one would know whether one wants the item to be, for example, visible or not.  This would save time in entering music.

Perhaps there is a workaround that I am missing ...
Sinfonia36 soundfont can be obtained from here:

This page has all the instructions on how to decompres the four RAR files into one  EXE and how to use the resultng soundfont with Creative soundcards.

But you can also use Sinfonia36 (or any other soundfont mentioned here) without the need of using a Creative soundcard.  This is done by using the soundfont through the software Synthfont, which you can get here:

You can use this method to render midi (or nwc exported as midi) directly to MP3 or WAV files.

I use Sinfonia36 soundfont with Synthfont.  But this is my personal preference.  Does anyone else use it ? 
General Discussion / Re: sfArk files
dheo, if you have a Soundblaster card it must have come with some sort of soundfont manager which enables you to load/unload soundfonts.  BTW, I generally use sinfonia36 soundfont which I like and find compatible with my tastes.  But then again, my use is almost exclusively limited to orchestral works and this soundfont does not cater for (say) steel/electric guitars.
General Discussion / Cue notes
Can anyone suggest a way of inserting cue-notes (smaller size notes) in a nwc score ?  I tried changing note-heads as an alternative but these do not appear to indicate note duration (minims vs crotchets).  Coloured notes would do fine but I do not have access to a colour printer.  Is there a workaround that I am missing ?

Bart, Rich, thanks for your work-around.  I had not thought of either of them but both are perfectly suitable for what I require.
It would be nice if one would be able to switch on/off a selection of lyric lines.  The need arises when one would want to print lyrics in different languages (eg: Latin/English) but would not like to have multiple redundant lines and would like to keep all lyrics in the same music files.

A simple check-box (Visibility: on/off) in each lyric-line page would be enough.
What does "multiple-byte characters" mean ?  I need to input these characters into my lyrics: ĦħĠġŻżĊċ.  These can be found in standard font-sets like New-Times Roman, Arial, Comic-Sans and others.  How can one use them in NWC ?  Cut-and-past from Word does not work: I tried that.  While the "paste" looks OK when these characters are pasted intio the lyrics box, closing the Lyrics box turns the characters back into the standard non-dotted characters.  Grrrr ... so close and yet so far away...
In PhilDixon's sample, I would suggest that both are correct - I have seen both in printed music.  The first looks neater, especially if the syncopated note needs to be accented.  The second looks more (how shall I describe it ?) "academic", as if coming from some kid's exercise.

K.A.T.'s example is more tricky.  K.A.T. seems to classify them into definitely correct and definitely wrong versions.  I ask: if there is general consensus that PhilDixon's samples are both correct, why not the K.A.T. samples as well ?  Perhaps the "imaginary line" suggested by K.A.T. has got something to do with it ?

Having said that, I support PhilDixons's second option even if only to help him get his beer ...

Er... What about Synthfont? It uses a soundfont generator like NWC's, and can put out directly into MP3.

It made my Chopin music sound pretty nice. The CD turned out great. Just saying.

I use Synthfont too and I find it good for my needs.  I use it in conjunction with sinfonia36.sf2 soundfont which is an orchestral soundfont (and freeware).  The combination of synthfont and soundfonts (sinfonia36 or others) can render midi files into mp3 or wav independently of whether one is using soundblaster-type cards or not because rendition does not depend on the soundcard.  I do use the option to turn off the speakers while rendering to speed up the process.

Having said that, synthfont is a bit overwhelming to use at first glance: its interface is not very intuitive, especially if one is not very audio-savvy. However, it does the job I want it to do for my purpose.  Probably better results can be achieved if one can learn to use all its features such as VST etc - which I unfortunately don't ...
Thank you.

Much as I looked at the site, I could not find this link.

... Tried it.  Worked fine.
I am using nwc ver 2. I need to have some colleagues look at/listen to the music I produce.

The download page for NWC Viewer indicates that the viewer is suitable for ver. 1.75.  Is this the case ?  Is there a viewer for files produced by NWC ver. 2 ?  If so, where is the URL.