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101
User Tools / Trilli
A small tool to automatically add trilli.

Assumes: font User1 = MusikDingsxxx

Once again, the trillo can be interpreted differently depending on the period, the composer etc. but I think this is a good starting point.
Of course, you can always do it by hand or use a hidden layedered staff, if you prefer...

Warning: exceeding 15 consecutive grace notes makes odd effects. NWC oddity.
As usual, Rick got a workaround, but it's not so easy to automate.
102
User Tools / Turns
A small tool to automatically add turns (and reverse turns).
Adding the parameter "r" or "-" inserts the reverse turn.

Assumes: font User1 = MusikDingsxxx

Yes, I know, the turns can be interpreted differently depending on the period, the composer etc. but I think this is a good starting point.
Of course, you can always do it by hand if you prefer...
103
General Discussion / Long measures
When dealing with a lot of 64th, usually the measures tend to become quite long.

NWC is Procustean: it simply truncates them!

You must be very careful for, sometimes, even passing to the landscape paper orientation is not enough.
The risk is to be forced to print in a very small size, difficult to read.

The solution is to insert by hand some bar lines hidden and bar-count excluded.
But that's very tedious!

The same comes with (long) text.
It would be a good idea to add some form of automatic wrapping.
104
General Discussion / Excessive accidental distance
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Chord|Dur:16th,Slur|Pos:b1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:8th|Pos2:b-1,b1
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Why is the second flat so far on the left?
105
General Discussion / Measure numbers
Sometimes I like to have all the movements in a single NWC file.
Very feasible, even more since the limit on the number of objects has long been removed.

The problem is that, in this case, the measure number is always from the beginning of the score while I'd like to have it reset at the beginning of each movement.
106
General Discussion / Lyrics swap
I have a staff with two voices, tenor and bass, and I use two layered staves.
Each staff has its own lyrics line.
When I overlay the two staves, one of the two lyrics lines is automatically shifted so as to have both lines readable.

In my case, no matter which staff comes first, the lyrics are such that the bass lyrics is always the first (highmost) line than the tenor one.
Swapping the order of the staves doesn't change anything.

I'm sure I'm overlooking something stupid.
107
General Discussion / Staccato isn't anymore
Try this:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb,Ab|Tonic:E
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|PerformanceStyle|Style:Staccato|Pos:8
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-3
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-3
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
108
General Discussion / Pedal handling error
Try playing this from bar 2:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:C|Tonic:C
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|SustainPedal|Pos:-8|Wide:Y
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:#2
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:4
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:6
|SustainPedal|Status:Released|Pos:-8|Wide:Y
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:6
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-1
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:3
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-4
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-1
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Rest|Dur:Half
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
109
General Discussion / Patch numbers
In the staff properties: String Ensemble 1 -> Send patch 48

In score review: String Ensemble 1 -> Patch = 49

So what? This is confusing. Let's decide: either 1-based or 0-based.
Or, since MIDI needs the number 0-based but humans start counting from 1, let's make the difference clear. ;-)
110
General Discussion / Save as
Score title: "Sonata n.1"

"Save as" proposed names: "Sonata n.nwc" or "Sonata n.nwctxt" :-)
111
General Discussion / Thinking aloud
Yesterday I turned on the old faithful, that is my old 486, and run win 3.11 and NWC.
How far we went from that version of NWC!
Now that I'm used to the new features I felt lost.
How many tricks are now obsolete!
113
General Discussion / Notes on 2.5
In the 2.5 help (F1) there is no mention of "hide cancellations" in the "key signatures" tab.

The "find by category" doesn't include "spacer".
Not a big problem but... why not?
114
General Discussion / Accidental clash
I'm not able to find a (relatively) simple solution for this problem with accidentals.

Does exist a trick I overlooked or should I use the enharmonics?

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115
General Discussion / Automatic step
When using "linear sweep" in MPC you need to select a step.
It's easy to overlook that step (sorry for the pun) and choose a too small step (sorry again :-), with resulting odd troubles with the midi, or a too big step, with the resulting harsh sounding sweep.

Doesn't exist a way (an algorithm) to automatize the step selection (and automatically readjust it when changing tempo)?
Or someone found useful to purposedly set it to a "wrong" value?
116
General Discussion / Another alignment problem
In the attached file I was able to fit the glissando mark in the first part of the score.
Near the end, the notes in the second staff (contrappunto) don't allow the same trick to work.
Any idea?

N.B. NWC 2.5 file.
117
General Discussion / Alignment problem
How can I put the 1/8 notes in the bass in the middle of a string of grace notes like in the image attached?
(Of course only for visual purposes)

[attachment deleted by user]
121
General Discussion / Windows takes it twice
Every time I open a MIDI file with "Open with->NWC2" I ends up having it twice in NWC.
I'm pretty sure this is a windows (registry) problem, not an NWC one, but I hope someone can help.
122
General Discussion / O.T. Theebrett?
I need a little help from the german speaking friends: what's a "Theebrett"?
Of course it's some kind of "percussion", but which one?
123
General Discussion / Adding notes to triplets
I have a song with lots and lots of triplets.
I decided to add a second voice a third below...

I think you can imagine what a PITA was to have to remove all the triplets (this part is easy), add the second voice (this is, more or less, mandatory) then select each triplet and tripletize it...

What about automatically tripletize the added note if the duration is the same as that of tha triplet?
124
General Discussion / Hint
While notating, I found myself selecting a dynamic marker and pressing '+' to switch from F to FF.
Nothing happened, naturally, by why not to implement it?

Of course that could be only applicable when the only item selected is a dynamic marker.

Ça va sans dire, the '-' key could go the other way...
125
General Discussion / Odd staccato
That's funny!

Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-6^
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem
|Chord|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-6^
|Chord|Dur:8th,Staccato|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,VertOffset=-7
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
126
General Discussion / Staccato + tenuto
I'm notating a score for sax quartet and this score has lots of notes both staccato and tenuto.
(Don't ask me how they actually are supposed to be played: I don't know, and I'm not a sax player :-)

I discovered that NWC doesn't allow the two articulations to coexist.

Furthermore, sometimes the tenuto marker is very slim and/or almost overlaps the score lines.
N.B. I'm talking about video rendering, including print preview. I haven't printed the score (yet).
127
General Discussion / Missing pop-up
If my memory doesn't cheat me, someone else already got the same problem.

Sometimes the pop-up doesn't show up when I hover the mouse on the blue strip in the left bar.
I mean the pop-up that resumes the clef, key etc. etc.

Clicking is ignored.
Double clicking selects the whole staff.
Clicking the right button pops up the local menu as usual.

I found no way to "stimulate" the pop-up beside closing and reopening the whole program.
This happens for all the staves and all the open scores.

As I said, the only way is to close and reopen the program.
128
General Discussion / Key updating
It seems that, if you change a key, the following one is automatically updated (visually) only if it's in the next 10 bars.

Not a big problem for the key is still somehow correct and the playing is ok.
Furthermore, when saving everything is correctly updated.
Perhaps max 10 bars is a bit scarce.

But I wonder: why there is a limit at all? Aren't computer fast enough today?
129
General Discussion / Just wondering
How is it that in the orchestral scores the horns and trumpets doesn't have any key indication but use the accidentals every time?

(I'm just cheated by a score in which the trumpets are trumpets in A and I didn't get it because there was no key indication, so I assumed the usual Bb...)
130
General Discussion / A simple request
Recently I found myself writing a lot of "crescendo molto" and "diminuendo poco a poco".
Nothing so hard to do, but I just wondered: why not to add "crescendo molto", "diminuendo molto", "crescendo poco a poco" and "diminuendo poco a poco" to the dynamic variance native list?

Of course it's not the case to try to follow the imagination of all the musicians, but I think those are quite diffused.

O.T. I think it was Schubert that, in a piano sonata, wrote "with full strenght" and, a few bars later, "stronger"...
131
General Discussion / Falling ties
I lost trace of the open issues with ties and slurs, so bear for me if this is already known.

In this snippet
Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:n1^|Opts:Stem=Up,Tie=Upward|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:b0
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Tie=Upward|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:n0^|Opts:Stem=Up,Tie=Upward|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-1
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
the tie is fine until the lower note is added, then, as you can see, the tie "slips down" looking like a slur for the lower note.
132
General Discussion / Broken tie
I know that's unusual, but I met this case:

Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:-4^
|Bar|Style:Double
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb,Ab
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Down
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Maybe we already saw it or something similar, but I'm unable to find the relevant discussion.

I'm not very smart in using the "find" of this newsgroup and my memory... bah! I'm somehow envious of Rick's one! :-)
133
General Discussion / It's even? No, it's odd!
I think this can be connected with that:
https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=7344.0
but let's start at the beginning.

I imported a MIDI file that's very good to hear but has no time signature, so NWC assumes 4/4.
In reality that song is in 3/4.
I changed the time for each staff, then I did an "audit bar lines".
The result? A big mess!
The biggest problem are the rests: a 4/4 rest becomes a "whole measure" (i.e. 3/4) rest...

The only solution I found is to add (via some external means) the 3/4 tempo signature to all staves in the MIDI file before importing it.

Any good idea anyone?
134
General Discussion / Odd beaming
Try to beam the first 4 1/8 in this bar:

Quote
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:5
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-2
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-1^|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:8th|Pos2:3^
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Rest|Dur:4th
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Of course I expected something like (omitting the upper voice):

Quote
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down
|Rest|Dur:4th
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

The result is quite funny instead.

N.B. I know that the preferred way to handle multiple voices is through layering, but anyway...
135
General Discussion / Chord staff
Often I write the chords on a separate "empty" staff that's layered over one of the others ("layer with next staff").
In this way it's easy to prepare the score for each instrument with che chord indication.

The problem is that the staff label that's printed is the one of the first layered staff.
Since the chord staff, to be easy to use, must be the one having "layer with next staff" checked, it happens that the combined staff label is the chord staff one, even if it's empty.

My suggestion is to make the combined staff label not that of the first staff indiscriminately but the one of the first layered staff with a non empty label.
136
General Discussion / Uneven ladder...
I'm surprised by the positioning of the accidentals in this chord:

Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:-8,b-4,n-1,n1|Opts:Stem=Up
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

I expected a sort of "ladder" with the flat as the leftmost, then the middle natural and the upper natural as the rightmost.
137
General Discussion / Fermata alignment
Curious alignment for the fermata, isn't it?

Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:6|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Whole|Pos:-4,-2,-1,2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
138
General Discussion / Kx driver
In both my computers (the old one with win2000 and the new with XP) I have a SB Live basic.
To be able to exploit their SoundFont capability I'm using the Kx driver.

I discovered that there is a problem with that driver: if you play the "long" triangle then you play the "short" triangle I expect the "long" one to stop playing immediately.
So does indeed the Creative driver but not the Kx driver. It treats the two as two independent instruments!

The same applies for the hi-hat.

Can someone confirm it?

I found no reference to that problem anywhere.
Long ago I wrote about it in the Kx forum but I didn't get any answer, not even an acknowledge...
139
General Discussion / A tempo
While notating, I have often to use "a tempo" and regularily I find myself looking in "tempo variance" wondering why I can't find it.
Of course I can't find it because it's not there.
Probably the reasoning behind that absence is that it fits better as a "tempo" specifying the BPM at once.
Maybe one can possibly see it also as a "perfomance style".
Anyway, my fingers go automatically on "tempo variance"...
140
General Discussion / Far away in the distance
I think this is old hat for Rick and the others gurus, but anyway...

Why the first flat is so distant from the notes?

Quote
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:b-2o|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First|Dur2:Half|Pos2:b-6o,b-2o|Color:0|Visibility:Default

Of course the solution is layering, but I'm surprised. It seem that the flat is 3 steps behind, not just 2 as expected.
141
General Discussion / Hiding triplets
Often, for pieces that use a lot of triplets, only the first 3 o 4 triplets are marked as such, then there is "simile" and the triplet mark is omitted (only visually, of course).
Does exist a trick to do so in NWC?
142
General Discussion / Overstretching
I notated a piece with many variation.
I want every variation to start at a new line, so I checked "force system break".
It works, of course, but the problem is that the line just before the break is often very short, sometimes even only a single bar with a single rest, so that bar is stretched so as to "justify" it.
Any idea on how to avoid that without resorting to post-editing or other exotic solutions?
143
General Discussion / Max length reached
I had a piece in 12/8 that I decided to convert in a 3/4 presto.
I doubled the notes (and pauses) duration (key '+'), changed the tempo signature from 12/8 to 3/4 and run "audit bar lines".
Result: a complete mess.
The whole notes and pauses stayed whole notes, so all the timings were wrong.
I had to correct and rewrite everything by hand.

Work for another user tool?

I doubt I have not checked: doing an "audit bar lines", are the temporary accidentals correctly handled or NWC simply adds/moves the bar lines?
144
General Discussion / Probably nothing new, especially for Rick...
...but how awful!

Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:4th,Slur|Pos:7,14|Opts:Stem=Down
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:13|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:12|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:9|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Slur|Pos:-9|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-10|Opts:Stem=Up
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
145
User Tools / CopyHiddenAccidentals
Since I'm absolutely new to php, using prw_CopyGraceAccidentals.php as starting point I wrote this tool as a programming exercise.
It's a slightly more general version than the original one since it tests for hidden notes instead of grace notes.

Of course it's not the case (yet) to use this tool if you purposedly put a hidden muted grace note to hide the accidental!
This is matter for php exercise #2... :-)
146
General Discussion / Hidden altered notes
I just discovered that "audit accidentals" is a bit too crude.
If you have a hidden altered note before a visible one (altered) and you do an "audit accidentals", then NWC assumes that the second alteration is implicit and removes it.
That's ok for playing the score in NWC, but the poor one that has to read the score has to guess that the note is indeed altered!
147
General Discussion / No pedal marks
I'm unable to import pedal marks, no matter if the relevant checkbox is checked or not.
Did I overlook something or it's a bug?
148
General Discussion / OT: Change in timbre
Long ago Bill wrote:

Quote
As to the harp - the timbre certainly doesn't change very much. But I do notice that the sound is purer when plucked in the center - near the center node, where you normally make artificial harmonics (to get back to the original topic) - than it is when plucked near either the bridge or the soundboard. Plucking near the ends of the string produces a dulling of the sound, which I have always attributed to a greater excitation of the higher harmonics and a corresponding drop in intensity of the fundamental, though I could be wrong. This is true, anyway, of the Celtic harp.

At the time I wrote I didn't get a big change in the timbre.

I just bought a new celtic harp.
Beside now having to pass most of the time retuning it (both the frame and the gut strings are brand new!), I discovered it has a much more evident change in timbre if plucked P.D.L.T. (prés de la table) than my previous harp.
Even the "regular" timbre is quite different from the one I had before.

Not all instruments are made equal!
149
General Discussion / Wow!
During the last holidays I spent some time transcribing music.
I was aware, from the community, of the many useful changes added to the latest NWC version, but to see them at work was a very pleasing surprise.
How much better!

Only a small complaint: in the lyrics editor there is no undo/redo function.
I think it was present before, or my memory betrays me?
Anyway I think it could be an useful addition (for someone that makes a lot of mistakes like me...).
150
General Discussion / Rests too high
As shown in this snippet, the rests are often placed so high that they touch and sometimes also overlap the note beams.

Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:32nd,Staccato|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Rest|Dur:32nd,Staccato|Opts:VertOffset=-2
|Note|Dur:32nd,Staccato|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Rest|Dur:32nd,Staccato|Opts:VertOffset=-3
|Rest|Dur:16th|Opts:VertOffset=-2
|Note|Dur:32nd,Staccato|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:32nd,Staccato
|Note|Dur:32nd,Staccato|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Rest|Dur:32nd,Staccato
|Note|Dur:32nd,Staccato|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Rest|Dur:32nd,Staccato
|Rest|Dur:16th,Staccato
|Note|Dur:32nd,Staccato|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:32nd,Staccato
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Of course I can lower the rests, but manually doing the thing is tedious.

I would not wonder at all if someone (Rick?) already signaled it.
I was not aware of this. It's just that I encountered it only yesterday.