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1203
General Discussion / Re: Note Color
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is easy to hit by accident--I've done it a few times.

I've done it so many times that's almost normal to do what David explained before declaring a score complete...
1204
General Discussion / Re: Help with simple transposition
I've always seen the scores for alto recorder written in real (concert) pitch and I never had problems "transposing" on the fly.
Of course, if the recorder player is a beginner, a transposed score can always be done.

I have much more problems to remember which recorder I'm playing: german or baroque!
And even some recorders of the same brand (Moeck) and the same family (Tuju) have some little fingering differences.

When my daughter was younger my wife suggested to buy a sopranino for her, but being a transposing instrument I preferred to give her a soprano, even if it was difficult for her's small hands.
And she has always been longing for my tenor...
1205
General Discussion / Re: sfArk files
Well, the original SBLive package is a bloat, uses the registry as a database for the register by register data of the (greatly useless) configurations ("environments") of the E-mu, and the handling of the soundfonts is buried in an intricated and largely unintuitive submenu.
I can understand that someone can have difficulties to sort it off!

By the way: not that the Kx driver is so much easier.

As I already wrote somewhere, I'm considering to switch to a VST SW synth...
1210
General Discussion / Hint
While notating, I found myself selecting a dynamic marker and pressing '+' to switch from F to FF.
Nothing happened, naturally, by why not to implement it?

Of course that could be only applicable when the only item selected is a dynamic marker.

Ça va sans dire, the '-' key could go the other way...
1212
General Discussion / Re: Staccato + tenuto
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This is fixed in Beta 2.5 Preview 5 (yeah!)
I checked some other things with Beta 2.5 but I forgot to check that!

By the way: any idea on how to actually play them?
1213
General Discussion / Odd staccato
That's funny!

Code: [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:Half|Pos2:-6^
|Note|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem
|Chord|Dur:4th,Staccato|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-6^
|Chord|Dur:8th,Staccato|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Down,VertOffset=-7
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
1214
General Discussion / Staccato + tenuto
I'm notating a score for sax quartet and this score has lots of notes both staccato and tenuto.
(Don't ask me how they actually are supposed to be played: I don't know, and I'm not a sax player :-)

I discovered that NWC doesn't allow the two articulations to coexist.

Furthermore, sometimes the tenuto marker is very slim and/or almost overlaps the score lines.
N.B. I'm talking about video rendering, including print preview. I haven't printed the score (yet).
1216
General Discussion / Re: Words used in clips
Since I'm an Ultraedit user, I put up this syntax highlight file for my convenience.
I don't know if there are others Ultraedit users out here (beside me and Richard), but anyway the attached file should be an almost complete nwctext keyword list.
1218
General Discussion / Re: Long-time user, but with (possibly dumb) problem (regarding Time Sigs & Rests)
Well, Warren, thank you.
It's not perfect but I think it covers an ample number of cases.

In my case, for example (https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=7295.0), I had to change the time signature from 3/4 to 3/2 so I'd have needed a modified version which translate semibreve rests to 3 x 1/4 rests.
The good news is that the change to the code is very easy to do...
1221
General Discussion / Re: INcorrect Instrument
Right so, Peter.
Indeed normally you write a staff for each instrument.

My concern was about the import from MIDI, in which case you often have a staff (or two) full of notes with the most strange of the... harmonies. ;-)
1222
General Discussion / Re: INcorrect Instrument
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or even an MPC

I don't think so. MPC moves everything!

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you can always use Staff/Properties/Instrument/Transposition

Well, having to do that by hand invalidates the usefulness of the "automation".

By the way: often, in that case, I simply use a staff with percussion clef + octave up.
1223
General Discussion / Re: INcorrect Instrument
I'm experienced enough to know that channel 10 is "special" so I have no problem to change the channel number when needed.
Anyway I'd appreciate if, by default, when adding a new staff the channel 10 is avoided.

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The way the program currently assigns channels to new staves works fine except when the new staff is staff number 10.

No, that's not what's needed. The staff number doesn't matter.
What's needed is
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to skip channel 10 when creating new staves

A similar topic: I already suggested the automatic insertion of the percussion clef when importing channel 10 from midi. The only drawback is if the percussions used are on high "pitches", in which case you need a lot of ledger lines.
1224
General Discussion / Re: Changing the speed...
You can batch convert to nwctxt all your files at once using nwc-conv.exe, then somehow (a windows script, an editor script, a php program...) automatically change the time in it and then batch convert all to nwc.
Of course the catch is in the "somehow"...

I'm surprised Rick didn't propose such a solution. :-)
1225
General Discussion / Re: Interference of piano Arpeggiato on the song line
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my sound card is a banal ASUS notebook card!

If it's so, probably whatever you ear is software generated.
Use a good software and a good soundfont and things can be a lot better.

Search for soundfonts in this newsgroup: there is a lot of help about that.

P.S. Sarei curioso di sentirvi. Farete una tournée anche in Italia?

Ciao
1226
General Discussion / Re: Interference of piano Arpeggiato on the song line
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makes the notes of the song line resulting as staccato

Silly me!
I completely misunderstood.
I was putting all my attention to the piano line.

Now the point is obvious :-) and indeed I met that condition before.

Of course this does not implies that I remembered the existence of the MIDI channel priorities... :-(

Thank you, Rick (as usual)!
1227
General Discussion / Re: Interference of piano Arpeggiato on the song line
The exported MIDI file is as follows:

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Meas. 7:0:0 - Channel 1: Note On: F3, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:0:24 - Channel 1: Note On: F3, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:0:24 - Channel 1: Note On: B3, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:0:48 - Channel 1: Note On: B3, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:0:48 - Channel 1: Note On: D4, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:0:72 - Channel 1: Note On: D4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:0:72 - Channel 1: Note On: F4, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:1:0 - Channel 1: Note On: F4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:1:0 - Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:1:24 - Channel 1: Note On: B4, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:1:24 - Channel 1: Note On: D5, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:1:48 - Channel 1: Note On: D5, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:1:48 - Channel 1: Note On: F5, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:1:72 - Channel 1: Note On: F5, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:1:72 - Channel 1: Note On: B5, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:2:0 - Channel 1: Note On: B5, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:2:0 - Channel 1: Note On: D6, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:2:24 - Channel 1: Note On: D6, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:2:24 - Channel 1: Note On: F6, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:2:48 - Channel 1: Note On: F6, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:2:48 - Channel 1: Note On: B6, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:2:72 - Channel 1: Note On: B6, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:2:72 - Channel 1: Note On: D7, Velocity: 60
Meas. 7:3:0 - Channel 1: Note On: D7, Velocity: 0 = Off
Meas. 7:3:0 - Channel 1: Note On: F7, Velocity: 60

As far as I can see there is no reason to get a staccato.

Probably it's a matter of sound card (and/or soundfont).
I had a similar feeling in other cases with other voices.
1229
General Discussion / Re: 24th Duration Note
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The issue is the denominator, which is in integers, not fractions.

Did you ever saw the scores that uses the actual note image (e.g. a crotchet) as denominator?
Formally this would be the most "mathematically" correct form!
And, yes, you can actually say that it's an integer. :-)
1231
General Discussion / Re: music recognition/transcription?
Off topic but about the harmonics: do you know the Shepard's tones?

The very first time I heard them was at an exhibition on sensorial perception in which they accompanied Escher's infinite staircase (the monks on the staircase, that is).
I was very impressed and for a long time I was wondering how it could be (it was by far before internet ;-).
I'm pleased to say that I went very close to the solution by myself. :-)
1232
General Discussion / Re: music recognition/transcription?
I definitely can't say it's impossible (never dare!)
But I can say it's quite difficult.
And I think the actual status is still primitive.

In some cases I analyzed some arrangements using both bare Fourier transform and spectrograms.
That work sometimes helped me a lot, sometimes it really fooled me. :-(
As usual, the results must be carefully evaluated by brain (and, in this case, by ears :-).

25 years ago one of my professors was working on a speak recognition program.
He was able to get a satisfactory recognition of the fluent speech of a single speaker after this one made some training to the program and somehow "helped" it speaking a bit more clearer than it's customary with a human.
He was then working to extend the results to "speaker independence".
Many years are passed and I'm sure some progress was made, but...

Ok HAL, that's all for today. Shut-down yourself, please. :-)
1233
General Discussion / Re: music recognition/transcription?
Well, me too tested some demo/free programs some time ago and I found the results usually awful.

In just one case I had "good" results, but it was very easy.
I was playing my recorder after having "trained" the program.
BTW I can't remember the name of the program.

So, as far as I can get, the best program for this target is between my ears... even if sometimes it proves insufficient.
1235
User Tools / Re: easier editing of nwctxt?
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Someday, I'd like to implement "code folding".  ... I am used to this when viewing Music XML files, and it's quite handy.

Me too I'm used to it and, sure, I find it quite handy.

I use UltraEdit as my default editor so I created a syntax file for nwctxt in order to have syntax highlight, code folding and "function" (i.e. stave) list.
If there is someone else interested (beside me and Richard) I can put it in the "tools" section and/or in the scripto.

Good idea to separate the "user configurable" part (nwctxt.colors.php) from the main program.
I agree with Rick about the @include_once.

I disagree with Rick about the formal checks.
In my experience it's always better to exceed in that direction than in the other, except if it's so exagerate that you'll have troubles when the format evolves.
Furthermore, the checks were already in place!

Thank you Randy.
1237
General Discussion / Re: NWC File Format/Modified NWC WinAmp Plugin?
As far as I saw, XMPlay is a simple player, so nothing to do with MusicXML and the like.

The NWC file format specifications were never released and, as far I can get, there is no plan to publish them.

The relatively new NWCTXT file format is not, as far as I know, formally published but is (purposedly) very easily decoded.
It is somehow dedicated to the use of external tools; I don't think someone will keep all its NWC files in that format so to have to convert the files to NWCTXT to play them in XMPlay is at least inconvenient.

By the way: both formats are still evolving.

I think the only hope is that a new winamp plugin (fixing some other problems too) will be released that will be XMPlay-compatible.
1239
General Discussion / Re: A Novice's Question About MIDI playback
Well, I installed my old SBLive in my new computer for I like the idea of having 2 HW synths using soundfonts (and for free, since I already had that soundcard).

The only problem, but a very specific one, was that I like to use the original front panel jacks of my PC.
I solved the problem by connecting the SB line output to the line in input of the embedded soundcard.
In this way I simply set once the levels of the SB mixer and from then on I use the standard mixer Aux input as a MIDI volume.

So, as long as you have the right kind of slot free for it, I think you shouldn't have any problem.
1241
General Discussion / Missing pop-up
If my memory doesn't cheat me, someone else already got the same problem.

Sometimes the pop-up doesn't show up when I hover the mouse on the blue strip in the left bar.
I mean the pop-up that resumes the clef, key etc. etc.

Clicking is ignored.
Double clicking selects the whole staff.
Clicking the right button pops up the local menu as usual.

I found no way to "stimulate" the pop-up beside closing and reopening the whole program.
This happens for all the staves and all the open scores.

As I said, the only way is to close and reopen the program.
1242
General Discussion / Key updating
It seems that, if you change a key, the following one is automatically updated (visually) only if it's in the next 10 bars.

Not a big problem for the key is still somehow correct and the playing is ok.
Furthermore, when saving everything is correctly updated.
Perhaps max 10 bars is a bit scarce.

But I wonder: why there is a limit at all? Aren't computer fast enough today?
1243
General Discussion / Re: Just wondering
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Mozart could write that way because good horn players could play on the upper partials ("harmonics) of the horn, where the pitches are much closer together.

Are you saying that the Mozart's horn concerts and horn quartet can be played on a "natural" horn?
Wow!

Thank you all.
1244
General Discussion / Re: ¥Weeds¥ General MIDI SoundFont v3.0
Thank you for the links.
I'll check the soundfont.

Since XMPlay can use the WinAmp plugins I checked if it can play the NWC files.
The result is:
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Unsupported Plugin
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in_nwc.dll "NWC File Player (2.0)"

This plugin is not supported by XMPlay because it uses it's own output.
1245
General Discussion / Re: Just wondering
Historical resons, that was obvious.
And another foolish thing in music, obvious this one too. ;-)

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IN OLDER SCORES, SOME BRASS INSTRUMENTS DID NOT HAVE VALVES, so they had to be "pitched" in a specific key (their "pitched" key is identified by their label in the score):

Ok, so why to bother writing sharps & flats where necessary?
Since you don't write them if they are in key, so I would expect you DON'T write them for horns since "their "pitched" key is identified by their label in the score"

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Mozart, Symphony No. 40, movement 1 (1788)
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When you look at the horn ["corno"] parts, the 1st horn is pitched in B-flat, and the second horn is pitched in G--these types of horns did not have valves to play scales like modern horns do--they could only play "root-5th-8ve-10th" hunting horn calls in the key the horn is pitched in.  The G horn could play G-D-G-B. The Bb horn could play Bb-F-Bb-D--put the two horns together and you get the primary notes of a G minor harmony/scale: G-Bb-D-F-G-Bb-(B)-D.

So, how could Mozart write that in 1786?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_Concerto_No._4_%28Mozart%29

P.S. Rick, you're incredible! The living Wiki! ;-)
1246
General Discussion / Re: Just wondering
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The notation is generally without a key signature and sharps & flats are written in where necessary
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In orchestral scoring, horns in F are traditionally scored without a key signature.

Ok, that's it. (Thank you Rick)
But it seems nobody knows exactly why...
1247
General Discussion / Just wondering
How is it that in the orchestral scores the horns and trumpets doesn't have any key indication but use the accidentals every time?

(I'm just cheated by a score in which the trumpets are trumpets in A and I didn't get it because there was no key indication, so I assumed the usual Bb...)
1248
General Discussion / Re: A simple request
It was Schumann, Sonata n. 2 in sol min. op. 22.
And it was
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So rasch, wie möglich
and
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Schneller
and
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Noch Schneller
that is: "as fast as possible", then "faster", then "even faster"...
My memory, bah!
1249
General Discussion / A simple request
Recently I found myself writing a lot of "crescendo molto" and "diminuendo poco a poco".
Nothing so hard to do, but I just wondered: why not to add "crescendo molto", "diminuendo molto", "crescendo poco a poco" and "diminuendo poco a poco" to the dynamic variance native list?

Of course it's not the case to try to follow the imagination of all the musicians, but I think those are quite diffused.

O.T. I think it was Schubert that, in a piano sonata, wrote "with full strenght" and, a few bars later, "stronger"...
1250
General Discussion / Re: Falling ties
You're right: the tie don't move. It's the effect of the moved augmentation dot.
Anyway it surprised me.

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In all cases, the tie must end at the same vertical coordinate as the tie start.

I agree.