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General Discussion / Slurs under phrasing marks
I can't find a way to notate slurred notes under a phrase marking.  For instance, if I have three bars which I have notated as a phrase by notating a slur from the first note of the three bars to the last note of the three bars, then I can't notate individual slurred notes within that three bar phrase.  Any tips or tricks to fix this please? 
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General Discussion / Re: Measure numbers with multiple measure rests
Nice site Barry, thanks, I look forward to spending some time there.  Sorry about the misunderstanding, I should have realised that's what you meant.

I have done a bit of arranging for sax quartet from choir piano/vocal scores, but my arrangements wouldn't set the world alight.  Also some quartet tenor and bari parts don't transpose comfortably to alto and tenor respectively, so I sometimes have to play around with the arrangement on these transpositions to get the piece back into balance, but that's the extent of my arranging ambitions/abilities really.

In any event I, and I suspect a lot of people like me, owe a lot to NWC without which we'd still be scratching around with pens and manuscript or taking out a second mortgage to buy another notation application, which shall be nameless here, and then going to college for a year to learn how to use it!!!!

All the best
Peter 



     
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General Discussion / Re: Measure numbers with multiple measure rests
Hello Barry.  A bit off topic perhaps, but it's my topic so I hope the Mod won't mind!!

I've accumulated around 50 saxophone quartet numbers over the years scored for both SATB and SAAT, and I've transposed a lot of the SATB to SAAT myself using NWC.  They've come from varous sources, the main ones of which are the excellent series of 3 Fairer Sax Ensemble books written by Karen Street of The Fairer Sax Ensemble which I strongly recommend, and from these two web sites:

http://www.4a4quartet.com/liste-scores.php?combo=duet

http://www.bruceevans.net/freebies.html

The 4a4 web site is truly excellent and the Marillia brothers are superb arrangers in my view, especially Philippe.  The scores and parts are very inexpensive from 4a4, and it's great to be able to listen to them and follow the score before buying.  The second site is a free download site, and though it doesn't have the same range as 4a4 there are some nice arrangments there for free.

I'm not sure it would be very practical for us to swap scores and parts on line, and to be honest I'm not into big band and have not much use for 10 piece.  I hope the links above are useful to you though, Barry..............

Best wishes
Peter 

 
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General Discussion / Re: Measure numbers with multiple measure rests
OK thanks for that David and everyone.  I've got this well and truly sorted now thanks to each of you.

Like you David, I've been using NWC for a long time, since September 1997 in fact, but I only use it for notating simple scores and for transposing SATB saxophone quartet scores to SAAT.  So I don't really have a need to get into the 'clever bits' very often but when I do need a 'clever bit' I usually come unstuck !!!

Thanks again everyone for your help

Regards,
Peter
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General Discussion / Re: Measure numbers with multiple measure rests
OK thanks Rick and Warren.  I think I've worked out the workround in your reply Warren, I appreciate your help.  I realise the boxmark facility is just a text insert which counts for nothing musically or in the measure count.  Thanks for your reply Rick I'll have a look that too.

Much appreciate your help
Peter
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General Discussion / Re: Measure numbers with multiple measure rests
Hello Warren.  Thanks for the swift response, but either I haven't explained my problem properly or I have misunderstood your helpful reply, probably the former so I'll try again.

I have inserted, say 8 bars rest at measure 60 using the Boxamark font facility.  If I now set measure numbers on in the page setup facility, the measure count goes up to measure 60, then the measure after my 8 bars rest is measure 61, whereas I want it to be measure 69.  How do I get the measure numbers to include my multiple measure rest in the count?

I hope this expalins my problem more clearly, and I look forward to your help again.

Thanks,
Peter 
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Tips & Tricks / Re: Multiple measure rests
OK .......I got there myself eventually, but thanks anyway for the steer to other entry formats and the other useful links too.  Much appreciated. I did come across Kjeld Hansen's page in User Tools and downloaded his script to my scripts folder, as instructed, but once again I ground to a halt trying to make it work and gave up on it.  I'm happy with this now, so I guess I'll just stick to the Boxmark font solution. Thanks again  
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Tips & Tricks / Re: Multiple measure rests
Thanks for the reply Warren.  I did search before posting, of course, and came across the Scriptorium and Boxmark font.  I downloaded the boxmark font played with it for quite a while and.........could'nt work out how to use it.  My fault I'm sure.  So I posted my old solution for anyone else who had the same trouble with Boxmark font.

I can get the multiple measure rest symbol onto the stave Ok using the text expression [nn], but can't work out how to put the number of bars rest in it.  Having got the mutli bar rest sybols onto the stave how do I then insert the number of bars rest required?  I'm an old dog I'm afraid and new tricks don't come easy so I know that I've missed something obvious and that it's going to be ridiculously simple. 

Thanks again.
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Tips & Tricks / Multiple measure rests
There have been some really great work arounds posted for notating multiple measure rests, but I'd just like to add this one which has been working fine for me for quite a while now.  Here's what you do to enter a multi measure rest:

1.    With the cursor in the bar your want to notate as a multi bar rest enter text mode, (x), select 'Page text Times Roman [12]', type 6 spaces and then the number of bars rest you require.  Go to the 'expression placement' tab and select staff position 4, uncheck 'preserve width'. Click OK.

2.    Enter text mode again and type the pipe symbol, |, then 5 equal signs if the number of bars rest is a single digit, or 6 equal signs if the number is two digitis, =====, then type the pipe symbol again. Select staff position 0, check preserve width and click OK.

3    Enter text mode again, type 3 spaces and click OK.

This will give you a good looking multi measure rest, but here's the secret.....What you do now is spend a while making up a score comprising only of multi measure rests starting with 2 and going up to, well, whatever you like, mine goes up to a 20 measure rest.  Then, before you start notating you load up your multi measure rest score first and then the score you're working on on top of it.  Then when you come to a multi measure rest on the score you're working on just bring up the measure rest score and do a copy and paste on the meaure rest you want.

Hope this is helpful.