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Messages - Warren Porter

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Tips & Tricks / My former NWC website
I thank Richard Woodroffe for hosting the NWC part of my old website on nwc-scriptorium.

If you have a problem with anything on that page, please let me know what you were trying to do and include the nwc or nwctxt file if appropriate. I won't ask Rich to make changes to my site more than once a month.
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General Discussion / Re: Pease help with download
I am on a new computer (Windows 11). I had copied the install CD to a thumb drive and was able to install in on the new PC, but after one upgrade, I am only up to 1.75c and will have to pay extra to get a 2.X version. As a 24 year user, I thought I was beyond that.

At any rate, we know copying the install disk to a thumb drive "works".
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General Discussion / Re: Pease help with download
I may have a similar problem, but I have an install disk for 1.75a. Will soon be moving to a new Windows 11 computer that does not have a CD drive. I'll try to save it while I'm on my old computer and may have something you can use in a day or two.
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Object Plugins / Re: Glissando.ms (2.2)
I am having a problem with how it sounds the 2nd time. Both notes are supposed to sound by themselves with a slide between them. The violin will be playing both holding down the same finger and shifting.

Thanks for your work on this!
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General Discussion / Up and Down beams on same set of notes
I am trying to beam the eighth (dotted) notes in the following snippet:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Chord|Dur:16th,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First,XDotSpace=-1|Dur2:8th,Dotted|Pos2:-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Slur|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Chord|Dur:16th,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First,XDotSpace=-1|Dur2:8th,Dotted|Pos2:-1
|Note|Dur:16th,Slur|Pos:4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Can this be done with an object now? I don't want to add a hidden staff if at all possible.
TIA
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General Discussion / Re: not loud enough
Why not distribute midi files instead? With the vanBasco player, the choir members can mute, play, or highlight any part and it also displays lyrics.
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General Discussion / Re: is it slur or tie
This tool will create an offset if the upper note (stems up) and lower note (stems down) are too close. If both parts have slurs or ties and they look like a lens or a fish, use the link on the first line.
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General Discussion / Re: User tool organization
On the subject of User Tools, this is my collection on the right hand side of my page. The left side is for web pages that must be kept open at the same time as NWC--most have been converted to user tools unless matching staves must worked on simultaneously.
my NWC page

If I am not able to continue this site, thanks in advance to Richard Woodroffe for his offer to host this on nwc-scriptorium.
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General Discussion / Re: Duration parts in NwcTxt
On the Opts: for a note or chord, does the order make any difference? I am trying to debug a page that has to add some options but keep anything already specified intact.
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General Discussion / Re: Is there a way to convert fermatas into tempo markers before export?
First fill the top staff with whole rests, time signatures, and rehearsal symbols.
I don't know of any tool that does that, but you can go to the beginning of a staff and hit Cntl/F At the end of the "Find What" line is a small box with four dots. Click on it, then select Tempo or Tempo Variance.
When you find one, select it (if not done already) , Cntl/X on it and paste it upstairs. Hit F3 to repeat.
I used that in Spanish Dance recently.






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General Discussion / Shutting down my website
I regret to announce that I will be shutting down my website later this month. If there are any pages or scripts you use frequently or used to use that don't work as well now, please let me know now. I'll do my best to debug / document what I can before pulling the plug.

Richard has offered to host my NWC folder on Scriptorium and I thank him for that.

wjporter.com/nwc
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General Discussion / Re: Support???
I will admit NWC is a stable product right now, but occasionally the forum needs moderating.

If users are going to be doing the programming, objects, and scripts, some more documentation would be helpful.
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General Discussion / Re: Fermatas vs Arpeggios
I wish I understood a lot more about how NWC and useful objects work, but finally decided on no delay in the fermata and getting the same effect by inserting a slower tempo on the last measure.
Thank you for looking at it though. Your tips and tools have been useful to the NWC community many times over and I appreciate your time and efforts.
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General Discussion / Fermatas vs Arpeggios
In this snippet I have a fermata in the last measure where a chord in the piano is arpeggiated. When played, there are a few extra notes added to the measure.

Is there any way to make this work or workaround?

TIA
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General Discussion / Re: any tricks for tied note decrecendo or crescendo?
This was my test, it seemed OK. I specified both volume and velocity.
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposer(2.751)
|Editor|ActiveStaff:1|CaretIndex:2|CaretPos:0
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:"<Name>"|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:"Copyright © 2021 <Name>"|Copyright2:"All Rights Reserved"
|PgSetup|StaffSize:16|Zoom:5|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|PrintSystemSepMark:N|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:0|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:None|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:StaffItalic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:10|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffBold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:StaffLyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:7.2|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageTitleText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:PageSmallText|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.27|Top:1.27|Right:1.27|Bottom:1.27|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:12|BoundaryBottom:12|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Violin"|Patch:40|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:F#,C#|Tonic:D
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Dynamic|Style:ppp|Opts:Velocity=127,Volume=10|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1^|Opts:Crescendo
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1^|Opts:Crescendo
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1^|Opts:Crescendo
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1^|Opts:Crescendo
|Bar
|Dynamic|Style:fff|Opts:Velocity=127,Volume=127|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1
|AddStaff|Name:"Staff-1"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Name:"Viola"|Patch:41|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|Key|Signature:F#,C#|Tonic:D
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Dynamic|Style:fff|Opts:Velocity=127,Volume=127|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1^|Opts:Diminuendo
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1^|Opts:Diminuendo
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1^|Opts:Diminuendo
|Bar
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1^|Opts:Diminuendo
|Bar
|Dynamic|Style:ppp|Opts:Velocity=127,Volume=10|Pos:-8
|Note|Dur:Whole|Pos:1
!NoteWorthyComposer-End

Edited: This doesn't work with percussion, only on instruments requiring a moving bow or stream of air.
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General Discussion / Re: Warren Porter's Spacer tool
Quote from: SEBC –
.. There are times when I would want to decrease the space, say if there was just one measure on the next line, at the bottom of a page, and I didn't want to start a new page. In that case, your spacer tool would still be helpful, so please don't get rid of it. Is there a way to install it on my computer so that I don't have to rely on the internet to use it?
Yes. Open SpacerORG.htm from my website and download it onto your desktop. If your system allows it, change its name to end in .hta instead of ".html" or ".htm".  That will let it get to work without the overhead of a browser.  HTH

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General Discussion / Hiding objects on a staff
Without going through the process of hidden-played, muted-displayed staves for every part, is there a way to make the following look like pentuplet 16ths by hiding the top beam and the dots on 32nd notes?
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.751,Single)
|Key|Signature:F#,C#,G#,D#|Tonic:E
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:8|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,DblDotted,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:32nd,Dotted|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Thanks in advance.
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General Discussion / Re: Warren Porter's Spacer tool
That has to be one of my oldest pages in the NWC section--it checks to see if the user is using Netscape as the browser. I'll soon be adding a link to this thread in that page--maybe the Spacer tool is now unnecessary.  Feedback welcome.

BTW, I added a dedication to RickG on my NWC page.

Edit: New spacer page is Spacer.htm. Renamed original page to SpacerORG.htm and it is linked from the new page, as is this thread.
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General Discussion / Re: Warren Porter's Spacer tool
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback.

I haven't created anything to handle more than one staff at a time and only use JavaScript. If you can show me how you use it (or would like to use it), I'll see what I can do. Please attach a sample file with only a few measures to a reply (a conversion of the file to nwctext would also work).
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General Discussion / Re: Beaming compound-time
I have converted the webpage in reply #17 to a User Function. It still has a few quirks regarding triplets, but real triplets in 6/8, 9/8, etc. are rare.

Copy the attached file if necessary and rename it dropping .txt . You will need to know its location when installing. It reads clip text and don't check any boxes. Note its comments on the first ten lines or so.
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General Discussion / Re: Beaming compound-time
Anyone still interested in this topic, please revisit my link in reply #17 above. It has a problem writing triplets although it can read them now. I'll see if I can fix it and any other bugs before converting this to a user function.
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General Discussion / Duration parts in NwcTxt
When something on the staff has a duration, can there be anything else in the Dur: field outside of note length, dot or triplet status, and presence of a slur?  If I need to change the duration of a note or chord, I need to keep the slur intact.

Anything else to be on the alert for? I need to clear this up before converting ThreeEight.html to a user tool.

TIA
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General Discussion / Re: Beaming compound-time
Quote from: William Ashworth –
In the second 6/8 measure of your example (and equivalent places), the three 8th notes at the beginning of the measure need to be beamed together. Can your tool be made to do that?
In that example, the 3rd eighth note didn't exist before the quarter note was split. I could add some code to unbeam all 8ths (and faster) where the script is active quickly and the user could autobeam after running the script. Later, I can identify the first note and last note of a beat to rebeam the beats when I can find the time to work on it.
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General Discussion / Re: Beaming compound-time
When I tried putting a number of flagged notes in a 6/8 or 12/8 measure, the automatic beam had no problem breaking them into three notes each. What looked like a problem was when long notes walked over the implied "beat" in 6/8, 9/8, or 12/8.

A half-note and a quarter-note (minim & crochet) works great in 3/4, but not in 6/8. What seemed to be needed was a way to break down that half into a dotted quarter tied to an eighth. I still need to convert my html tool to a user tool, but if I missed something, please let me know now. TIA

Attached is my test file, before and after.
ThreeEight.html It is not necessary to provide any parm count or parm values.

Happy New Year, everyone.
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General Discussion / Re: Beaming compound-time
Quote from: David P –
I manually make a Noteworthy file comprising a minim then a crotchet, in a 6:8 time signature. This should strictly be shown as a dotted crotchet tied to a following quaver at the same pitch, then the crotchet, but I do it wrongly by hand. Then I export it as a MIDI file. NOTE THAT this will comprise only the time signature and note lengths and pitches. No direct beaming information will be contained in the MIDI file.
When I import the MIDI file again, using 'detect compound time'  where appropriate, Noteworthy still shows it as a minim plus a crotchet. This is fundamentally wrong.
Obviously I can edit the file and correct it by hand, but then I could have written the music score with a quill if I had wanted; doing it automatically is why I bought Noteworthy.
Importing other files from other sources demonstrates the same problem.

Could you attach a short file (or appropriate NWCTXT) to a forum post that messes up like you described. Please explain what you do/did to it and where the problem occurs. If there are other note-length combinations the NWC doesn't handle properly, please include them in that test file.  By the way, does it beam a number of quavers correctly?

I can take a shot at it along with others who have replied, but it helps to have real data with which to test.

Nwc Page
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General Discussion / Re: Very Sad news.
His help was immeasurable, teaching me how to use JavaScript in NWC functions. His encouragement, knowledge of NWC, and useful shortcuts will be missed by all.

Pacem.