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1052
General Discussion / Re: Losing a toolbar
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the more link of:
News: Licensed NWC2 users can upgrade their community membership [more]
at the top of this page

Gosh! I was sure I saw it somewhere... :-)
1053
General Discussion / Re: Layering
To be able to include links and attachements to your posts you must upgrade your membership.
A very easy thing to do, but at the moment I can't find a link to the relevant instructions.
Rick, you're great in finding (and remembering) links...
1056
General Discussion / Re: Wrong sounds in an orchestral score??
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The sound level I guess will have to be fixed for each channel, but then I can use dynamics like pp og FF a.s.o. - ?

Yes, you can use dynamics at wish, even if more staves are playing at the same moment on the same channel since each single note message has its own "strength" (i.e. velocity).

You can also change the multipoint controllers (volume, modulation, pitch bending...) whenever you want, but, since they work on the whole channel, their function is applied to all the notes (and staves) that use that channel.
Not such a great limitation, usually.
Old keyboards did some great jobs with only 5 or 6 patches at once using these tricks.
1057
General Discussion / Re: Wrong sounds in an orchestral score??
The channel 10 is the standard channel for the percussion set.

A percussion set is a patch that has a different (percussive) instrument for each note.
Timpani is a kind of percussive instrument in which the pitch of each note is well defined, so it can not be a percussion set but a standard voice patch (so normally it can't be assigned to channel 10).

This is the basis.
Then there are the GM2 and XG extensions, in which you can say that, for example, channel 10 and channel 16 are both percussion set, or that channel 10 is a regular voice channel, but that's not feasible in NWC.
1058
General Discussion / Re: Wrong sounds in an orchestral score??
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Are you saying that NWC2 cannot handle more than 16 voices?

No, it's the MIDI standard that limits each sound module to 16 channels (voices).
If you have more MIDI modules (e.g. the old SoundBlaster had two HW synth) then you can have more groups of 16 channels and you can handle them with NWC.
But don't expect to easily share those scores with others!

Haymo,

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If you have a group of staves playing the same instrument, you can assign one channel to each of these staves, (provided the dynamics are identical in the staves.)

I disagree on your note about the dynamics. Each staff can have its own dynamic.
What must be identical are the multipoint controllers: pan, volume, pitch bending, expression...
1059
General Discussion / Re: Indenting the staff.
It's some time that, in the print preview, I find many scores with the title top half cut away and the staves very close to the page borders.
Warren example is one of those.

Indeed, in all the cases the margins are:
Top: 0
Inside: 0,2 (inches) or 0.51 cm
Outside: 0,2 (inches) or 0.51 cm
Bottom: 0,2 (inches) or 0.51 cm

I suppose the title is cut because it's outside of the max printable area for my printer.

Then I must conclude that the scores I viewed were made by someone who tried to exploit the page as much as possible.

What puzzles me is that I'm almost sure the authors were many and different.
Is it a sort of NWC default?

But there is more: I copied the print preview as bitmap to the clipboard to attach it here as an example but, surprise!, pasted in a graphical program it's perfect.
I had to use the printscreen to get it.

I suppose that the "copy" command does not take care of the idiosyncrasies of the printer driver like "print preview" does.

Am I correct?

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1063
General Discussion / Re: installing user tool
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What is the difference between using the user tool and 'manually' change the bar?

You have to remember which way and how much to shift, and you must change clef manually too.
Operating manually, you must be sure you take care of clef changes along the score or it's a mess.

That's all, as far as I can tell.
1064
User Tools / Re: Working Tremolos
Peter,
using your tool with 16', the sound of the note obtained with two tied grace notes is truncated.
I can't understand why.
Bedtime...
1067
General Discussion / Re: Piano - Left Hand in Treble Staff
Well, the one we are talking here is the local menu.

You can get there via a mouse right click or pressing that odd key on the right of the space bar. The one between the "windows" and the "Ctrl" keys.
1072
General Discussion / Re: Piano - Left Hand in Treble Staff
Well, for that matter: I didn't know of ctrl-E. :-)
I always used alt-enter (Windows standard for "properties").

Good to know that's possible to get there with a single hand via ctrl-E.

Rick, what do you mean with "Menu, O"?
With the local menu (same as right mouse click) I can't see any shortcut; you must do "Menu, Up" to get to "Staff properties". ""O" does nothing.
1074
General Discussion / Re: What is the default modulation wheel setting?
What? The default modulation wheel setting?
The default modulation wheel setting is zero, i.e. no modulation!

Of course, if "back to its original modulation wheel setting" means something else then we're not talking about the default setting.

Then I completely missed what note velocity has to do with it...
1075
User Tools / Re: Appoggiature
Replaced the tool in the first message.

Version 1.01:
Adjusted the appoggiatura of dotted notes.
Added slur to the visible grace note.
1076
General Discussion / Re: big character in dialogue box for lyrics
Lawrie, if I got it right Lionel is asking how to enlarge the text in the text dialog box ("dans les boites de texte").

I think this is a problem of system font.
Or maybe NWC not considering the DPI of the display, at least in that dialog.
(I have one program with that problem.)
1078
User Tools / Re: Appoggiature
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             // Warning: with 16 or more consecutive grace notes/rests
              //          odd things happen

This indeed happens with whole notes.
At the moment I see no need to find a workaround.
I hope an appoggiatura to a whole note is not so frequent.

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I think the goal should be to modify playback, not the appearance of View or Print.

Absolutely!

The only differences I can see between my tool output and your example are:
  • the use of a headless hidden whole instead of a hidden copy of the visible grace note
  • the use of a spacer to keep the visible grace note closer
  • (Edit) the slur between the grace and the main note (I overlooked it)

I usually try to avoid editor-invisible items for I can easily forget their existence...
The grace note duration, as far as I know, is not significant.
The use of the spacer can be nice; I simply didn't think of it.

Both play the same, so what?

Thank you for the link to The Project Gutenberg. Very interesting.
I'll make the small adjustments regarding the dotted notes.
Of course I never hoped to cover all the possibilities...
1079
User Tools / Appoggiature
Here is my tool to convert a standard NWC grace note to an appoggiatura.

The tool converts all the selected combinations of a single grace note coupled with a standard one.
Please take care to include the standard note in the selection.

For details see https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=8429.0
(Many thanks to Rick)
1080
General Discussion / Re: False acciaccatura
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Grace notes steal a 32nd, so if you want to steal an 8th, you need 4 of them.

Yes, I figured it out and, being lazy, I'm writing a user tool to do the job for me... ;-)

Very nice alternative solution to Warren's problem, too.
1081
General Discussion / Re: False da capo (al fine)
The flow of each movement?
That's the only movement with a "peculiar" flow. All the others are at most like AABBCC.

Anyway, this is too much trouble for too little.
I'll copy the A and B part at the end of the movement then I make them invisible.

Thank you very much for having tried.
1082
General Discussion / Re: False acciaccatura
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but that's what you were expecting wasn't it?

Of course! :-)

Rich, your trick makes the first note sounding for too long and clashing with the following one.

Rick trick is perfect.

Thank you both.

N.B. Like Rick, I was surprised to see VertOffset=-2000 again.

Just in case someone needs it: I remembered that figure is called "appoggiatura".
1083
General Discussion / Re: False da capo (al fine)
Mumble, mumble...

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The Flow Direction Symbol Command is not used

Obvious. Indeed I substituted them with text.

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No Local Repeats are used

No problem, they aren't.

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No Rest, Note, Chord, RestChord or RestMultiBar is played more than 7 times.

I can easily understand why. :-)
No problem: no more than 3 times.

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There are no lyrics

No lyrics at all, so no problem.

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Endings, Section Open and MasterRepeatClose will accomplish that much.

That's the catch. Master repeats can not be nested.
I must meditate on it to see how special endings can do the trick.

N.B. The structure of the piece is as follows: AABBCCDD(da capo al fine->)AB
1084
General Discussion / False da capo (al fine)
I have multiple movements in a single NWC file.

A movement has "da capo al fine".
Of course in this case the "capo" is not the score beginning and the "fine" is not the end of the music but only the end of the movement.

There's a way to simulate that without explicitly repeating what needs to be repeated (using the visibility: never attribute)?

N.B. Some master repeats are already used in the movement.
1085
General Discussion / False acciaccatura
There is a way to make this one:
 
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:2|Opts:Muted
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Down,Muted
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

looking as is, but sounding as

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:1|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Without using layering, I mean... (Too easy otherwise ;-)
1087
General Discussion / Re: MMR for coupled staves
Now that I tried my idea, I think it's fair to explicit it for the ones that don't feel comfortable with global_mod (like myself not so long ago).

The command lines I use are:
Code: [Select · Download]
php\php.exe scripts\adp_GlobalMod.php RestMultiBar Visibility=Always
and, of course,
Code: [Select · Download]
php\php.exe scripts\adp_GlobalMod.php RestMultiBar Visibility=Default
with input type = file text and Returns File Text.

But now I discovered another thing.

In "File Info" I only have the title. All the other fields are blank because I cleared them; I want them so.
After applying the tools I get: Author = <Name>, Copyright notice 1 = Copyright © 2013 <Name> and Copyright notice 1 = All Rights Reserved.

Quite annoying!
1088
General Discussion / Re: MMR for coupled staves
Well, ok.

Also, with a more sophisticated syntax, I can use the Global modification tool to change the visibility of all the MBR at once.

I can also define a couple of "tools" that are simply Global modification with predefined command lines to set MBR visibility to always and to default.
In this way, the change is just a matter of a few clicks.
1089
General Discussion / Re: MMR for coupled staves
Warren, I'm puzzled.
If I delete the boundary collapse commands from your attachment, then I get exactly (item per item) my example wich, obviously, has the problem.
Sorry, but I don't understand.

Bill, I see your point.
Indeed often the violin and piano sonatas, in the piano part, have an extra small staff with small notes that shows what the violin plays.

But what about a full orchestral score?
Does, for example, the harp part show always the whole orchestral score?
1090
User Tools / Re: rg_CloneStaff.php - an enhanced AddStaff
Don't worry, Haymo, it's very easy: when you want to add a new tool you must do Insert->User tools->New

There you have the "Input type" radio buttons "Clip text" and "File text".
And also an "Options" check box called "Returns File Text".

You have to select what's suggested by the tool autor.
That's all.

If the tool is old or bears no indications then select "Clip text" and not "Returns File Text"-
1091
General Discussion / Re: MMR for coupled staves
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If staves are connected by a grand staff brace, the MMR logic should treat them as one staff.

Yes, sure. That would be the best solution.

The problem is that, at least the moment, it's not so and I can't think any workaround.

Just in case, here attached you can find an example of what I want.

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1092
General Discussion / Re: MMR for coupled staves
Sorry, apparently I can't explain clearly.

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- when I print the full score, then the MMR must be expanded as whole rest bars;

That's ok, perfect, no problem, NWC does it very well.

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- when I print only one instrument that tacet for a while, then I want to see the MMR.

I mean: when I print (let me say: "extract") only one part.
For example, the violin alone or the piano alone in a violin and piano sonata.

If the extracted part that's silent for a while is formed by only one staff (e.g. violin, clarinet, flute...), no problem. NWC does it perfectly with all the needed MBRs.

If the extracted part that's silent for a while is a grand staff (e.g. piano, harp, guitar... whatever), then I want to see the MMRs, but that doesn't happen. That is: NWC thinks this is a multi-instrument score and handles it as the full score, so no MMR unless I force them with visibility = always.
Of course that's an overkill for when I want to print the full score...

Maybe later I'll post a couple of images.
1094
General Discussion / Re: MMR for coupled staves
Sorry Warren but... does the boundary changes change something about the MMR? I can't see anytrhing different.

What I want is:
- when I print the full score, then the MMR must be expanded as whole rest bars;
- when I print only one instrument that tacet for a while, then I want to see the MMR.

By the way: nothing so strange. If you do that on a violin and piano sonata with a piano solo intro, NWC already works exacly as I described.
The problem is when the intro is for violin solo and piano tacet! (That is: when, like in my case, the instrument that tacet is a "grand staff" instrument)

Is it clearer now?
1095
General Discussion / MMR for coupled staves
I notated a score for two harps (see attached file), then I tried to extract the two parts.
Extracting the harp I alone, I expected two MMR at the beginning.
Nope: the MMR are expanded.

Single staff printing and multi staff printing can't be of help.

The only way to have them showing up as MMR was to set their visibility to "always".
Inconvenient, don't you agree?

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1096
General Discussion / Re: MusicXML to Noteworthy converter
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who didn't want to download the 25Mb .NET 2.0 Framework and the countless updates to it.

Indeed I installed .NET 2.0 (and 2.0 alone) only to be able to use your tool.
Should your old tool become obsolete (unusable), I for sure will remove it (.NET 2.0, I mean).

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Due to its nature, it only takes a small change in either NWC or Windows for it to stop working completely. I'm not even sure it would work under Windows 8, I have no intention to test it, and the mere existence of the .nwctxt format renders the whole conversion process of the old app completely obsolete.

I fully agree.
1097
General Discussion / Re: MusicXML to Noteworthy converter
Thank you, Nicolas, for both the old converter and the new one.
But I have the problem that, very often, I use NWC on my computer that has no internet connection.
You can understand that's quite inconvenient to have to move the files back and forth between computers in order to get access to your converter.
Isn't possible to have a version "downloadable"?
1098
General Discussion / Re: Playback in Windows 8
My daughter's new laptop has win 8 (even if probably not for long...) and I installed NWC in it.
There is the usual Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth.
1100
General Discussion / Re: Adding staves during a repeat
Lawrie, I don't see any advantage to approximate the muting on/off with (hidden) dinamics instead of inserting an (obviously hidden) "volume = 0" and "volume = 127" MPC.
Or, if you prefer, "expression = 0" and "expression = 127" MPC.