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1001
General Discussion / Re: In a repeated section, how can I make Sop. & Alto sound first time & T,B 2nd?
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I downloaded it, removed the opening MPC, stopped and restarted it several times. I heard no problems.

Rick, you're right!
Perhaps something has changed in NWC since I started to use the trick.
I tried to find the relevant topic here in the forum but with no result.

After a bit of head scratching I have the doubt that the problem first appeared with volume because of a fade out. Anyway, I just checked and now even in that case there's no need for the trick.

I'm almost sure to remember that long ago Eric explained how NWC work(ed) and how to overcome the problem.
That is: that trick is not my invention.

But maybe I dreamed! :-)


"Dreaming permits each and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives."
         William Dement
1002
General Discussion / Re: In a repeated section, how can I make Sop. & Alto sound first time & T,B 2nd?
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I would be discouraged by your comments.

Really? Not my intent at all.

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In actual use, I do not find replay a problem.

Probably you use the pitch bend very rarely or either you rarely stop and restart a pitch bended tune.

Anyway, the problem is not so terrible once you know how to completely solve it: put a parameter reset at the very beginning of the score. (Explication and trick suggested by Eric.)

An example? There are some in the Scripto, from me and from others, but I'd like to suggest this one:
https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=7876.msg54814#msg54814
Please note that the erhu score has
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|MPC|Controller:pitch|Style:Absolute|TimeRes:Eighth|SweepRes:128|Pt1:0,8192|Pos:8|Wide:Y
at the beginning exactly to allow for a stop and restart.

By the way: the other problem, the one in the topic of that thread, probably a rounding one, is still present.
1003
General Discussion / Re: In a repeated section, how can I make Sop. & Alto sound first time & T,B 2nd?
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they can cause strange behaviour on subsequent replays.

Bill, usually this is the effect of how NWC parses the commands.
It does a back search of many things, including MPCs, before replays.
If it doesn't find anything of a kind, that kind of parameter is unchanged.
I met this effect many times, in particular with the pitch bend. :-|

To have a consistent behaviour simply put a parameter reset at the very beginning of the score.
For example, if you use the expression MPC in a staff (well: a channel, to be precise) then put an expression MPC with the absolute value 127.
1010
General Discussion / Re: Slowing down
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Unrolling the flow in a hidden staff and being simple and explicit removes complexities. At worst it requires some math, and math is hard ...

That's it.

In the actual score there are many refrains and to unroll all of them is a p.i.t.a., with the added burden of having a staff (the hidden one) completely out of synch with the others and much longer.
Very error prone, for my taste.

Your first suggestion is my way to go.
1011
General Discussion / Re: Slowing down
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It appears that "before" and "after" are meant in a visual sense rather than a logical or musical sense
That's exactly what I meant with "It seems that the tempo indications are not subjected to the special endings parser."

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I don't see any bugs here.
Well, at least we can say that's not very intuitive.
What's the logic behind that choice?
1013
General Discussion / Re: Slowing down
Good workaround, thank you Rick!

Still, I don't understand why I need it.
What's the logic?

P.S. The hidden tempo staff trick is too complicated in my real score.
1014
General Discussion / Slowing down
My aim is to slow down the second time, so I tried this way:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.51,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Key|Signature:C|Tonic:C
|Dynamic|Style:f|Pos:-11
|Tempo|Tempo:100|Pos:8|Visibility:Never
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatOpen
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-5,-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-4,-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|TempoVariance|Style:Ritardando|Pos:8|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-5,-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-6,-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Ending|Endings:1|ClosedBracket:Y
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:#-9|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-7,-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-9|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-6,-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatClose
|Ending|Endings:2
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:#-9|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-7,-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-9|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Tempo|Tempo:50|Pos:8|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:Whole|Pos:-6,-4,-3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

As you can ear, that's not the case.
To begin with, it slows down the first time too (why?).
Then, when it reaches the "ritardando" for the second time, all of a sudden it restores the standard time and then slows down. (???)

I tried this way:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.51,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:4/4
|Key|Signature:C|Tonic:C
|Dynamic|Style:f|Pos:-11
|Tempo|Tempo:100|Pos:8|Visibility:Never
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatOpen
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-5,-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-7|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-4,-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-6|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|TempoVariance|Style:Ritardando|Pos:8|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-5,-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-6,-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar
|Ending|Endings:1|ClosedBracket:Y
|Tempo|Tempo:100|Pos:8|Visibility:Never
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:#-9|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-7,-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-9|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-6,-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-8|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Bar|Style:MasterRepeatClose
|Ending|Endings:2
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:#-9|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-7,-4|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-9|Opts:Stem=Up,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Rest|Dur:4th
|Tempo|Tempo:50|Pos:8|Visibility:Never
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:Whole|Pos:-6,-4,-3
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

With my great surprise, now it never slows down.

It seems that the tempo indications are not subjected to the special endings parser.
1015
General Discussion / Hint
Just before a concert, my daughter mixed up the pages of the various pieces she had to play.
She had no time to sort them all, so my wife volunteered to do it for her.

Small problem: my wife knows very little about musical notation and many pages had the page number but not the title of the piece...

Why not allow to print somewere in all the pages (header or footer) the title in small characters?

N.B. My daughter had to play by heart. :-)
1017
General Discussion / Re: Upgrade problems?
Yes, many if not everybody.

This problem showed up during the beta stage but back then it had to be considered normal.
I expected it to be fixed in the official release but it seems it's not the case.

You have to "fix" the toolbars yourself by hand.
1019
General Discussion / Re: Problems with customizing toolbars
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I don't have a "save all" button in the customize toolbar dialog box.

So do I. :-)
I suppose Harald intended to click the normal "File->Save all".  (Unneeded operation, anyway)

I suppose you are using windows 7 or 8, in which case the directories c:\programs (x86)\... are protected and only the administrator is autorized to write there.
The file with the NWC toolbars is in that area.

Windows >= 7 don't care if you ARE the administrator; you have to expressly say "run as administrator" each time you have something important to do.
Don't ask me what I think about that!

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the setup-program gave an error that I didn't have a proper copy of version 2.5.5.

The update program checks the actual installation and wants the configuration to match what was installed.
Probably, moving it here and there you screwed it up.

A solution is to simply remove the installed NWC, reinstall the first version you bought and then follow the chain of updates.
A bit annoying but nothing so terrible unless, of course, you have to do it every day. :-)
1020
General Discussion / Re: Problems with customizing toolbars
Indeed there are some "error" buttons, relics of the previous toolbar.
Their removal is as Harald said.

If the removal is not permanent I suspect there are problems in rewriting the toolbar description file under "programs (x86)\....". Another instance of the old problem of the permissions.

Try opening NWC as Administrator before changing the toolbars.
1022
General Discussion / How do you say "OK"?
In the dialogs, how do you say "Ok" with the keyboard?
The only way I found is to press tab until the focus is on the "Ok" button.
Very annoying, in particular in the dialogs with a lot of components.
1023
General Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas
Very nice!

Many years ago I saw people playing glasses live in Quebec city.

I also saw a glass harmonica, the Benjamin Franklin type, in the musical instruments museum in Rome and I have a CD recording of Mozart's adagio for glass harmonica K617a.

Season greetings to all of you.
1025
General Discussion / What time is it?
I have a couple of scores by Alan Stivell.
For both the time is 6/8 and the tempo is indicated as "100 = quaver" and "132 = quaver".
I set the tempo in NWC as "quaver = 100" and "quaver = 132". It's the same thing, isn't it?

I never heard the first piece but, sure, the second one is waaaaay too slow.
An acceptable value for the latter is "dotted crotchet = 132".

How should I read the Stivell's tempo indications? (I don't think I could ask him ;-)
1026
General Discussion / Re: tablette IPAd
Non, et il n'y a pas d'idée de l'exporter sur d'autre systèmes operatifs. Même pas Linux.
Au moin ça c'est nôtre impression. (Nôtre dans le sens des utilisateurs...)
1029
General Discussion / Re: Staff justification
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I just set it once and clone the staves I need. I have ceased to be annoyed :)

Like my other "standard settings", I did it in all the templates, but I must remember NOT to use the default for it's not customizable...
1034
General Discussion / Re: Hidden dot
But...

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.51,Single)
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-3|Opts:Stem=Up,Slur=Upward|Dur2:Half,Dotted|Pos2:-3
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up,Slur=Upward|Dur2:Half,Dotted|Pos2:-2
|Note|Dur:4th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:1|Opts:Slur=Upward
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End


Why not doing something for the dots also when the notes are in the space?
1036
General Discussion / Hidden dot
In this snippet, the dot of the first note is hidden.

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.51,Single)
|TimeSig|Signature:6/8
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-5|Opts:Stem=Up,Slur=Upward|Dur2:Half,Dotted|Pos2:-5
|Note|Dur:4th,Dotted,Slur|Pos:-1|Opts:Slur=Upward
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

The score where it comes from allows a bit more space between the notes to show the dot.
1037
General Discussion / Change staff metrics
I think I already asked this, but I don't remember the answer.
Why, while changing staff metrics with "proportionately scale other staff font sizes", the user font sizes don't change?
Maybe they were conceived as something not "staff font", but more often than not, if not always, I'd prefer them to scale.
What do you think about it?
1039
General Discussion / Re: PDF vs printer
Well, papi22, sure it works, but I don't see any advantage to do it in two steps instead of generating a pdf directly.
Anyway, each one is free to use whatever he prefers.
1042
General Discussion / Re: Import resolutions
Haymo, let me expand my second post:

I checked Use the import wizard on open, then I dropped my file to NWC.
The wizard opened, I choose Note Resolution = Quarter Note and, pronto!, all was as I expected.

As I wrote, all this seems to work only if Use the import wizard on open is checked (i.e. you use the wizard).
1044
General Discussion / Import resolutions
I must admit I never really understood what Note Resolution and Rest Resolution
do. I never found any difference.

Now I imported a file with a slight defect in the rhithm.
I find very boring to adjust it by hand, so I selected Note Resolution = Quarte Note: no change.
I then selected Whole Note: no change.

No matter what I choose, I keep getting this:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.51,Single)
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:3^,5^,7^
|Chord|Dur:32nd|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:3^,5^,7^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:32nd|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:3^,5^,7^
|Chord|Dur:32nd|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:3^,5^,7^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:32nd|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-4
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:3^,5^,7^
|Chord|Dur:32nd|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:3^,5^,7^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:32nd|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:0
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:3^,5^,7^
|Chord|Dur:32nd|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:3^,5^,7^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Chord|Dur:32nd|Pos:3,5,7|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Am I missing sometring?
1045
General Discussion / Re: Grace notes and ties
All the rest was known to me.

This was the missing tile:
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I know from experience that once grace notes exhaust a "following note", they steal time from the next one.
1047
General Discussion / Grace notes and ties
I discovered that, for the grace notes, the ties are not considered.
The grace notes only steal time from the first note.
Listen to the mordent here:

Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.5,Single)
|Clef|Type:Treble|OctaveShift:Octave Up
|TimeSig|Signature:2/4
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=First,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:16th,Triplet=End,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Rest|Dur:16th
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Rest|Dur:16th
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Up,Slur=Upward|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace,Slur|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up,Slur=Upward|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:16th|Pos:2^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Bar
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th,Dotted|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Rest|Dur:16th
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

I think it shouldn't be so.
1050
Avant-garde / Re: Guitar Tablature
I would say: how to display repeat barlines and TimeSigs on staves with a number of lines different from 5 or 1 (N.B. the only ones I use).
6 is certainly the number of strings most used in tablatures, but there are other string instruments with a different number of strings.