NoteWorthy Composer Forum

Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Opagust on 2016-03-24 08:32 am

Title: Mind the accidentals when deduplicating multivoice staffs.
Post by: Opagust on 2016-03-24 08:32 am
The lower staff of the attachment is to be sung by two voice groups.

But I like to have seperate staffs,  which makes it easier to see the notes I have to sing, and also for playing 'my' staff only when studying.
So I made two seperate staffs in my NWC file of this song. In the upper staff I've put in this measure:  a half b flat, a quarter  rest and and 2 eighth d's, in the lower staff: a half f,  a quarter  rest and and 2 eighth b's.

And then, to prepare myself for the rehearsal of our choir, I played the lower staff several times with my earphone plugged in.
But when singing it with the choir, the director noticed that there was someone of the basses that didn't sing the b's flat correctly. Then I realized that my NWC file was not correct: I should have put 2 b's flat in stead of two natural b's, because in the original score, there were preceded by a b flat in the same measure!

Conclusion: when deduplicating a multivoice staff: mind the accidentals!
Title: Re: Mind the accidentals when deduplicating multivoice staffs.
Post by: Warren Porter on 2016-03-24 11:07 am
Perhaps something like this?!?:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.75,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Note|Dur:32nd,Grace,Slur|Pos:b5|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Title: Re: Mind the accidentals when deduplicating multivoice staffs.
Post by: Opagust on 2016-03-24 02:08 pm
Perhaps something like this?!?:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.75,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Note|Dur:32nd,Grace,Slur|Pos:b5|Opts:Muted|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
That sounds right, but the accidental is not visible.
Since I duplicated the staff into 2 seperate staves, I just had to add the accidental:
Code: (nwc) [Select · Download]
!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.75,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:b5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:5|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
Title: Re: Mind the accidentals when deduplicating multivoice staffs.
Post by: Mike Shawaluk on 2016-03-24 02:12 pm
I think what Warren was suggesting was a way to notate the flatted note on the layered staff so that it would play the B♭ correctly without displaying a redundant ♭ symbol on the printed layered score. (Unless you have no need to print it.)

Mike
Title: Re: Mind the accidentals when deduplicating multivoice staffs.
Post by: Opagust on 2016-03-25 08:27 am
I think what Warren was suggesting was a way to notate the flatted note on the layered staff so that it would play the B♭ correctly without displaying a redundant ♭ symbol on the printed layered score. (Unless you have no need to print it.)

Mike
In my case this is not applicable, because I want 'my voice' on a separate staff. But indeed, when you want to layer 2 voices, this is the way to do it. Thanks, Warren.
Title: Re: Mind the accidentals when deduplicating multivoice staffs.
Post by: David Palmquist on 2016-03-27 08:45 am
I think what Warren was suggesting was a way to notate the flatted note on the layered staff so that it would play the B♭ correctly without displaying a redundant ♭ symbol on the printed layered score. (Unless you have no need to print it.)
Mike

Do I understand the question is simply - how do I apply an accidental to a note without showing it?
If so, isn't hiding the accidental just a matter of pressing the 7 (natural), 8 (flat) or 9 (sharp) key twice instead of once?
Title: Re: Mind the accidentals when deduplicating multivoice staffs.
Post by: Flurmy on 2016-03-27 10:34 am
Do I understand the question is simply - how do I apply an accidental to a note without showing it?
If so, isn't hiding the accidental just a matter of pressing the 7 (natural), 8 (flat) or 9 (sharp) key twice instead of once?
I don't think so. This actually removes the accidental.
To apply an accidental without showing it, use a hidden, muted, altered grace note before the note you want to apply the accidental to.
Title: Re: Mind the accidentals when deduplicating multivoice staffs.
Post by: Opagust on 2016-03-28 09:14 am
My original post was not about not showing an accidental. Maybe I wasn't clear enough.
I'll try it agian:
So my point was: do not make the same mistake, mind the accidentals when deduplicating a multivoice staff.