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Title: Bach piece
Post by: John S. on 2005-09-24 07:41 pm
I've looked around the Scriptorium but could not find it.
I'm trying to find the Bach piece that starts:
C D Eb F G Ab B(downward leap) Ab(return) G F Eb D [all sixteenths]
C Eb G B(downward leap) D F [all eighths],
then the answer against the countersubject, etc.
I also looked through all the keyboard music books that I have (one of which is supposed to be Bach's complete works...) and can't find it.
Can anyone help me out please?

Thanks,
J. S.
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: Lawrie Pardy on 2005-09-24 10:43 pm
G'day John,
could this: "Bach, Johann Sebastian: 2-part inventions No. 4 in Dmi Clavier" be what you're looking for?

A wonderful resource for identifying themes is: http://www.musipedia.org/

You use an approach called "Melodic Contour" or "Parsons Code".  It is explained on the site and has remarkable accuracy.

Lawrie
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: John S. on 2005-09-27 02:26 am
Thanks, Lawrie!
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: K.A.T. on 2006-07-20 09:32 pm
I have a tune I can't identify, and musipedia.org didn't help on this one.

TIA
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: Andrew Purdam on 2006-07-21 12:52 pm
It is soooo familiar.
But its name won't come to me. Sorry. :-(
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: David Palmquist on 2006-07-21 03:56 pm
I think the mystery song is Summer Samba (Samba de Verao) composed by Marcos and Paulo Valle - listen to a sound clip by Astrud Gilberto here http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00000472W/701-8800286-3331545?v=glance&n=916514&s=music&v=glance (http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00000472W/701-8800286-3331545?v=glance&n=916514&s=music&v=glance) and perhaps a more concrete example by Marcos Valle here http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1504199&title=Samba+'68&artist=Marcos+Valle (http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1504199&title=Samba+'68&artist=Marcos+Valle)

English lyrics can be found here http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/somethingsgottagive/summersambasonice.htm (http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/somethingsgottagive/summersambasonice.htm)

There's a longer (and nicer) sound clip here http://hype.non-standard.net/track/129502 (http://hype.non-standard.net/track/129502) 

(Astrud Gilberto is always worth listening to)
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: K.A.T. on 2006-07-21 05:51 pm
Thank You!
Thank You!
Thank You!¹ººº

Now I'm off to the distributer to see if I can buy a set of parts!
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: David Palmquist on 2006-07-21 09:03 pm
You're welcome, K.A.T.

Why not arrange the piece yourself using NWC? 

You know the rhythm, you have the lyrics, and you can find the chord changes on http://Songtrellis.com (http://Songtrellis.com)  Listening to Astrud's recording will give you an idea of the use of backgrounds.
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: fitzclan on 2006-07-21 09:09 pm
Nice job David! That tune is like a blast from the past only I was thinking Burt Bacharach. Same era. Even though the tune is so familiar the name of it still doesn't ring a bell. I never would have guessed. It keep me awake for a while last night though!
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: David Palmquist on 2006-07-22 09:59 am
[glow=red,2,300]Blush[/glow].
The song has another title too, So Nice.  I couldn't find either title in a couple of online Bacharach discographies, but I don't doubt he would have recorded it.  I think it would be compatible with his style.



Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: K.A.T. on 2006-07-22 12:01 pm
Well, I could arrange the piece myself, but is that legal?
It’s still ©ed, isn’t it?
I don’t want to be playing this arrangement at a gig that we’re getting paid for and find out I’m breaking the law...
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: David Palmquist on 2006-07-22 05:51 pm
You'd have to check the copyright laws in the country where you'll be when you make the arrangement.  Try googling the word "copyright" and the name of your country.  You should be able to get some links to the legislation itself, but also there's bound to be some law firm that has prepared questions and answers.

Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: felisek on 2006-08-02 04:11 pm
John,

This defnitely is invention No. 4, D minor (yours is in C minor), BWV 775, from two-part inventions. See

http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?collection=bachis&preview=1 (http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?collection=bachis&preview=1)

Cheers,
Marek
Title: Re: Bach piece
Post by: andrew Shep on 2006-09-19 07:29 pm
Dear John,

I didn't know this as a keyboard work.  It sounds like Partita no 2 for solo violin, in which form it is in d minor rather than C mi.  Probably lots of midi versions available on the web.  Hope this helps.  -  Andrew Shepperd