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General Discussion / Re: Entering Chord Names
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
G'day Rike,I think I'd prefer the name to be less specific to a countries name - is there a more generic name perhaps?  If I remember my geography correctly the countries mentioned are pretty much all Eastern European ones?  If so, how about SwingChordEastEuro?
No, not all of countries are classifiable as "Eastern Europe". For example Germany is "Western Europe", Czech Republic is "Central Europe" and earlier mentioned Sweden is "Northern Europe". Coutries, which use "H"-major adopted germanic bases of music. Some of them because of history (Czech Republic was through many centuries under government of German-speaking countries), some of them felt it as the best to use... So no geography correlation, only historical (you can find many articles about Austria-Hungary, Prussia etc., if you need:-) ).
I cannot find any other coherence for the name than historical roots of music. So if you use German (Germanic) as adjective, there won't be any primary relation to Germany as a country for us. We are consentient with our bloody german history;-)

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That's not my call, I'm just a user like you.  Best to send a message to noteworthyonline.
Yes, thank you.

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Rike - I'd really appreciate an exact translation something like:
Ab = as (name of notes are written as small letters)
A = a
A# = ais
Bb = b
B = h
B# = his
Cb = ces
C = c
C# = cis
Db = des
D = d
D# = dis
Eb = es
E = e
E# = eis
Fb = fes
F = f
F# = fis
Gb = ges
G = g
G# = gis

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What about double flats and double sharps?  I need to know all of 'em.
You can easily understand this system. Expected your B and E, we use for sharp suffix "-is" and for flat suffix "-es". In case "E", there is divergence in flat - "ees" reads stupidly, so "es" is used. And in case "B" - as you know, we call it "h", flat "b" and sharp "his".

Double flats and double sharp = add suffix twice:
your Abb - asas (due to reading)
Bbb - heses (NOT "bes"!)
Cbb - ceses
Dbb - deses
Ebb - eses
Fbb - feses
Gbb - geses

A## - aisis
B## - hisis
C## - cisis
D## - disis
E## - eisis
F## - fisis
G## - gisis

These are names of notes. But chords we mainly write near like you - Ab, F#, H, Db... but doesn't read as you.
Some examples of other chords:
F#mi (F# minor), D7maj or Dmaj7, Bdim, Ami7/5-...

I hope I wrote it intelligible and without mistakes:-)
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General Discussion / Re: Entering Chord Names
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
do you have a suggestion for an appropriate name for the Germanic type font?  To be consistent with my other offerings it would need to be something like "SwingChordDeutsch" - the Do-Si variants will probably be called "SwingChordDoSi" etc.  (When this gets off the ground there will be SwingChord, MusikChordSans and MusikChordSerif versions).  I think making it specifically a *Deutsch name would possibly be misleading given that other nationalities also use the system, but calling it *Euro is also inappropriate as not all European nations use the system...

Hallo Lawrie,
although I never used name "german scale" for calling our "H"-major, I think that name "SwingChordGerman" or "SwingChordGermanic" (not Deutsch, because prefer for better comprehensibility stay in full-english titles) is best for understand. You can write a small legend, that this system is for Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Russia etc. and there's no problem.
As offtopic, are you willing to permit me make a website of NWC in my native language (Czech)? I think that this can help to expand of NWC as cheap and powerful editor in my country...
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General Discussion / Re: Entering Chord Names
Quote from: Peter Edwards –
As mentioned above (but apparently unnoticed) you still need 'S' for Eb in the German system. :-(

OT: sorry, Peter, but I used so called "german system" through my life, but never saw written "S" for Eb. Should you tell me where you saw or used that?
My "system" is corresponding with this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note#History_of_note_names
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Scales (yes we pronounce E-flat like "s", but never write...)
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General Discussion / Re: Entering Chord Names
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
OK, took a few minutes to create an example.
Good afternoon Lawrie,

wonderful, thanks a lot, a understand all I needed :-)

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I use FontCreator Pro - reasonable price and easy for me to understand the basics...
Thanks for tip.

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My very first draft idea (absolutely unpondered yet) is to have all the letters (upper & lower case) and numbers at their places, so you can write whatever you want (A, B, C... H... do, re, mi, Do , Re, Mi... I, II, III, IV...) and mapping the symbols to the remaining keys.
Yes, I think, that this idea is more universal. Let all letters and numbers on expected place and special symbols to have elsewhere in map.
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General Discussion / Re: Entering Chord Names
Quote from: Flurmy –
Italian? Are you kidding? ;-)

Sorry, my mistake in interpretation. We can call using "H" as "germanic" or "nordic" (I think also not exact) system but no change of idea ;-)
We call system with "H" as "classic". At school also as italian-based (I don't know why)... So therefore... it's messy:-) But Lawrie understands:-)

Lawrie, should you tell me, what software did you use for creating TTF fonts? Maybe more individual changes are better for me (for example we don't use small tringle as "maj"), so if you as owner of copyright will agree, I can change it by myself for own use... But I think, that above explained "H" is usable and important for many others users from Europe.
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General Discussion / Re: Entering Chord Names
Quote from: David Palmquist –
Rike, for entering chord symbols, there are two very easy ways.
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Quote from: Rick G. –
It is a good idea to use a separate layer for the chords.

Thanks a lot David, second is better for me. But I think that there is a third way (maybe started by Rick?) to do this and for better decision I'd like to know and see it too. I thought that third is using separate layer for "text" chords. But I don't know how to merge it with selected stave when printing best... And sometimes changing of vertical position is needed, for example in high-strings (violins) chords are needed more upper than in bass stave.
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General Discussion / Re: Entering Chord Names
Hallo Lawrie,

Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
My method is different - perhaps you could re-read it while creating a new file to practice with.
I will try. It's awfully hard for me to understand what you wrote, for example, what does mean twice used "NB"?
Example would be really better, not just now, only pair of bars to show your idea practically. I think it would be better for other not-good-at-English users;-)

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When they were under development a lot of testing was done by people from all over, including several from Europe (which what inspired the *TextEuro fonts)
I don't know what country they were from, but in the middle od Europe, Germany, Austria, Poland, Magyar, on east (Czech Rep., Slovakia...), on north (Sweden)... everywere I saw using letter H only.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonleiter
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C5%BAwi%C4%99k_muzyczny
http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangsor
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dur
http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durov%C3%A1_stupnice

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Just how big a problem is it?  I am somewhat reluctant to modify the existing fonts if this usage is at all diminishing...
Not diminishing, normally using:-) For us is rather "exotic" your anglo-saxon "B":-) Sometimes in jazz music is used your "B", but in normal music (95%) we have "H major" instead of your "B major". And our "B major" is your "B flat major". So it's plain enough, that unawares using "your B" instead of our "H" makes dangerous and terrible mistakes...
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General Discussion / Re: Entering Chord Names
Quote from: Lawrie Pardy –
It has occurred to me that a "blow by blow" account of one way to do the chord thing might be in order.
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Hallo Lawrie,

at first, sorry for my terrible English:-)

I tried to use what was written above, but I have 2 problems when using "chord stave", for example in Caverns sample.
Image of export to PDF is better than words: http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9163/caverns.png

Red scratch means what I don't like to print. What did I do wrong?

Second question/information is about your amazing fonts. They have one mistake - are only in anglo-saxon system (notation) - ABCDEFG. You forgot in Europe very frequently (mainly!) used "Italian" system of notation - CDEFGAH. A didn't found any H in fonts. There's not problem to change ABCDEFG to CDEFGAH in PHP files, but working with fonts is for me impossible.
Any idea?

Thanks a lot all people, who works on NWC. Great job!
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General Discussion / Can we look forward to these features?
Hi, I enjoy NWC due to simplicity, but some features are needed:
- using rythm record with chords in guitar parts,
- using drum notes,
- easy converting score to single parts,
- autocomputing and associating successive empty bars.

Will be able this features in NWC2 ever? Or migration to any burgeoning software...?