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Title: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Pam on 2002-11-18 01:03 pm
I have some fairly high notes in the base clef of a piano socre I am working on and when printing they conflict with the stems in treble clef.

Is there a way to change this -- I trying changing the staff point size but it doesn't seem to do anything to help this.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Pam on 2002-11-18 01:55 pm
I figured it out -- staff properties - not page setup !!

Happy camper here -- I have been putting this off for weeks because I couldn't figure it out.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Evan K on 2002-11-19 01:42 am
BASS clef!
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Mike on 2002-11-19 04:06 pm
Could you change the clef on the 'left hand' stave to treble, for the duration of the highest notes?  I'm no pianist, but I think I've seen this on scores in the past.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: d justice on 2002-11-20 11:33 am
Or you could lower the interfering notes one octave and then insert as text 8----------- above the notes. It won't sound right (see layering to fix that) but it will look right.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Peter Edwards on 2002-11-20 01:16 pm
Not in piano music. Treble clef is the answer. I've only seen 8va above the Treble clef and very occasionally below the Bass clef.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Waylan Wall on 2002-11-20 02:52 pm
see layering to fix that
Layering not needed.  Insert hidden clef with octave up.  Then when done insert another hidden clef with octave down.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Peter Edwards on 2002-11-20 04:16 pm
Not quite! if there is a system break then you won't get the clef on the next line until you restore the real (unhidden) one. You still need layering to get round that one.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Waylan Wall on 2002-11-21 03:49 am
You still need layering to get round that one.
Not quite!
Just put in a visible clef at the beginning of the next line, followed by another hidden one.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Peter Edwards on 2002-11-21 10:09 am
Until you change the page layout.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: Evan K on 2002-11-22 08:57 pm
This is why I just use a hidden staff (not hidden clefs) that sounds the way I want, with a visible staff that is muted.

(The spell checker doesn't like clefs.)
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: d justice on 2002-11-25 10:13 am
Maybe the plural of clef is claven.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: David Palmquist on 2002-11-25 03:49 pm
Why HIDDEN clefs?  Put the treble clef in visibly, when back in reasonable range, insert the bass clef.  NWC handles this well, and the right clef will be printed at the line breaks.
Title: Re: Piano Score - Printing
Post by: David Palmquist on 2002-11-29 03:48 am
(Trained pianists should be able to handle it well too.)