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1251
General Discussion / Re: A simple request
It was Schumann, Sonata n. 2 in sol min. op. 22.
And it was
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So rasch, wie möglich
and
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Schneller
and
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Noch Schneller
that is: "as fast as possible", then "faster", then "even faster"...
My memory, bah!
1252
General Discussion / A simple request
Recently I found myself writing a lot of "crescendo molto" and "diminuendo poco a poco".
Nothing so hard to do, but I just wondered: why not to add "crescendo molto", "diminuendo molto", "crescendo poco a poco" and "diminuendo poco a poco" to the dynamic variance native list?

Of course it's not the case to try to follow the imagination of all the musicians, but I think those are quite diffused.

O.T. I think it was Schubert that, in a piano sonata, wrote "with full strenght" and, a few bars later, "stronger"...
1253
General Discussion / Re: Falling ties
You're right: the tie don't move. It's the effect of the moved augmentation dot.
Anyway it surprised me.

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In all cases, the tie must end at the same vertical coordinate as the tie start.

I agree.
1254
General Discussion / Falling ties
I lost trace of the open issues with ties and slurs, so bear for me if this is already known.

In this snippet
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:n1^|Opts:Stem=Up,Tie=Upward|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:b0
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1|Opts:Stem=Up,Tie=Upward|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:4th,Dotted|Pos:n0^|Opts:Stem=Up,Tie=Upward|Dur2:4th,Dotted|Pos2:-1
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-2
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
the tie is fine until the lower note is added, then, as you can see, the tie "slips down" looking like a slur for the lower note.
1256
General Discussion / Re: I gotta get me one of these :)
Many years ago I visited an organ museum (if my memory doesn't cheat me, this one: http://www.orgue.ch/anglais/index-e.htm) and they explained how an organ works.
In particular they said that what's important for the sound is the shape of the pipes and the "labium".
The rest is pure aesthetics.

They played a Bach fugue on an organ then asked: what do you think about the sound of this organ?
We all, puzzled, answered "it's ok".
Well, the pipes were made by the pupils of the school using the center rolls of toilet paper and kitchen paper glued with adhesive tape...
1257
General Discussion / Re: Help File Error
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* guisto - proper or exact

Mistyping. It should have been "Giusto".

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senzo legato - without legato

Idem. It should have been "Senza legato".

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Stacatto

It is "Staccato", exactly like it's written a few words further.

"Volta subito" verbatim means "turns immediately".
I don't see it fit for the intended use.

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I can't say that I remember seeing a common way of canceling performances styles!
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The only other "canceling" terms I could find were "a tempo" to cancel an accelerando or ritardando, and "loco" to cancel an 8va or 8vb.

Me too!
1259
Version 1.75 Discussion / Re: Problems with wmf files
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With NoteWorthy Viewer installed, the wmf files i generate and send to them will be viewed properly...

Well, yes.
As a side effect of the viewer installation, the NWC fonts are also installed, so your wmf are viewed properly.

But, as Richard wrote, with NoteWorthy Viewer installed, the NWC files you generate and send to them will be viewed and played properly.
1262
Version 1.75 Discussion / Re: Indexing and referencing nwc files
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... something like grep in dos?

Yes, right that: grep for DOS.

There is one in every Borland language package for DOS.
You can download one here: http://edn.embarcadero.com/museum/antiquesoftware

In alternative I have:
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GREP20AX.ZIP contains GNU grep 2.0 (MS-DOS rev A).  This program searches files (or standard input) for lines that match a given pattern.  The pattern may be a regular expression or a literal string. This program
is free under the terms of the GNU General Public License (see COPYING). This archive has only the MS-DOS executable and formatted documentation. Complete source code is available in GREP20AS.ZIP.
1263
General Discussion / Re: Broken tie
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it is rare to insert a clef that is not a change of clef.

Yes indeed. It's just for "cosmetic" reasons.
In the other staves there is a true clef change.
1264
General Discussion / Broken tie
I know that's unusual, but I met this case:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:-4^
|Bar|Style:Double
|Clef|Type:Bass
|Key|Signature:Bb,Eb,Ab
|Note|Dur:Half|Pos:-4|Opts:Stem=Down
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Maybe we already saw it or something similar, but I'm unable to find the relevant discussion.

I'm not very smart in using the "find" of this newsgroup and my memory... bah! I'm somehow envious of Rick's one! :-)
1265
General Discussion / Re: Deleting bars from a song
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Select what you want to delete in the staff. Don't delete it yet. Press CTRL+L
The corresponding part of the lyric will be selected for easy deletion.

Yup, I wasn't aware of that!
Thank you Rick.
1269
User Tools / Re: Script to print to PDF
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I am fast getting to the point where a single user tool invocation can automatically generate all 5 of my PDFs for a hymn (for C instrument, Bb instrument, F instrument, Eb instrument, and C instrument alto clef).  This PrintToPDF script was a part of that automation process.

Aha, this makes a lot more sense!

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Again, apologies if I'm further wasting anyone's time here.

Oh, I think I'll survive... ;-)
Out of joke: mine was not a critic, I was simply curious.
1270
General Discussion / Re: Scriptorium Update
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Richard Woodroffe   Czardas   (Monti)

Isn't it funny that the most famous "tzigane" song is from an Italian composer? :-)
1271
General Discussion / Re: It's even? No, it's odd!
This is one of those times in which I feel really idiot.
I routinely use the export-reimport trick to adjust for missing rests at the beginning of a song to have only full measures but I didn't think about using it in this case.
Thanks, Rick.

Anyway I must remember to be very careful in changing the tempo signature
(but I'm sure I'll remember it *after* getting in trouble again...)
1272
General Discussion / It's even? No, it's odd!
I think this can be connected with that:
https://forum.noteworthycomposer.com/?topic=7344.0
but let's start at the beginning.

I imported a MIDI file that's very good to hear but has no time signature, so NWC assumes 4/4.
In reality that song is in 3/4.
I changed the time for each staff, then I did an "audit bar lines".
The result? A big mess!
The biggest problem are the rests: a 4/4 rest becomes a "whole measure" (i.e. 3/4) rest...

The only solution I found is to add (via some external means) the 3/4 tempo signature to all staves in the MIDI file before importing it.

Any good idea anyone?
1273
User Tools / Re: Script to print to PDF
Sorry, I must be sleepy. What's the use of such a program?
Isn't easier (or virtually the same) to use "file->print->PDFCreator" as I do so often?
1274
General Discussion / Re: Pitch bend
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Pitch Bend does affect all the notes on the same MIDI channel.  Other channels are not affected.

Of course. The "per channel" was implicit.
So do also the SysEx commands.
1275
General Discussion / Re: Pitch bend
Barry,
I think you missed a part of the point.
What you wrote applies to pitch bend, and that affects all the notes.

Andrea wrote:
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I know that MIDI protocol has a message to tune in real time single notes;

I think he refers to Universal Real-Time SysEx:
[SINGLE NOTE TUNING CHANGE (REAL-TIME) (BANK)]
F0 7F <device ID> 08 07 bb tt ll [kk xx yy zz] ... F7

N.B. For specially tuned scales this can be used:
[SINGLE NOTE TUNING CHANGE (NON REAL-TIME) (BANK)]
F0 7E <device ID> 08 07 bb tt ll [kk xx yy zz] ... F7

So, Andrea, the answer is that, at least at the moment, NWC does not handle SysEx directly so there is no way to use those commands.

The only usable command is the pitch bend controller that, as you know, affects all the notes at once.
For the details, as far as I know, what Barry wrote applies.
1276
General Discussion / Re: Odd beaming
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RestChords cannot be beamed.

Either I missed it or my memory is to blame. Thank you Rick.

Anyway, layering works fine, even if it's annoying to add a staff for just a single bar.
1277
General Discussion / Odd beaming
Try to beam the first 4 1/8 in this bar:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:5
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down
|RestChord|Dur:8th|Opts:Stem=Up,ArticulationsOnStem|Dur2:8th|Pos2:-2
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-1^|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:8th|Pos2:3^
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-1
|Rest|Dur:4th
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

Of course I expected something like (omitting the upper voice):

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=First
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:3|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:-1^|Opts:Stem=Down,Beam=End
|Note|Dur:4th|Pos:-1|Opts:Stem=Down
|Rest|Dur:4th
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

The result is quite funny instead.

N.B. I know that the preferred way to handle multiple voices is through layering, but anyway...
1279
General Discussion / Re: Chord staff
Lawrie,
if the "layered" staff is the movable one you just move it on top of a standard one and you're done.
If the "layered" staff is each time a different one, you have to make it layered when you move the chord-lyrics-whatever to it and then remember to "unlayer" it when you need chord-lyrics-whatever elsewere.

That's why I wrote "to be easy to use".
1280
General Discussion / Chord staff
Often I write the chords on a separate "empty" staff that's layered over one of the others ("layer with next staff").
In this way it's easy to prepare the score for each instrument with che chord indication.

The problem is that the staff label that's printed is the one of the first layered staff.
Since the chord staff, to be easy to use, must be the one having "layer with next staff" checked, it happens that the combined staff label is the chord staff one, even if it's empty.

My suggestion is to make the combined staff label not that of the first staff indiscriminately but the one of the first layered staff with a non empty label.
1281
General Discussion / Re: read only
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(In Composer, when simply viewing "File > Info" to read about the music and author, I sometimes forget and click "OK" instead of "Cancel").

Me too.
Long ago it took some time to grasp why NWC kept saying "the file has changed".
1283
General Discussion / Re: Uneven ladder...
Well, I don't have the good old Alfred, but that arrangement looks odd to me.
And I'm in good company: the score I was copying is printed exactly as I described.
1284
General Discussion / Uneven ladder...
I'm surprised by the positioning of the accidentals in this chord:

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Chord|Dur:Half|Pos:-8,b-4,n-1,n1|Opts:Stem=Up
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End

I expected a sort of "ladder" with the flat as the leftmost, then the middle natural and the upper natural as the rightmost.
1286
General Discussion / Fermata alignment
Curious alignment for the fermata, isn't it?

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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|TempoVariance|Style:Fermata|Pause:0|Pos:6|Justify:Center|Placement:AtNextNote
|Chord|Dur:Whole|Pos:-4,-2,-1,2
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End
1288
Tips & Tricks / Re: Courtesy Accidentals
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I almost never use "audit accidentals" because NWC and I often disagree profoundly on what should be a sharp and what should be a flat.

My bad memory is proverbial but, Bill, are you sure that "audit accidentals" is still changing the enharmonic spelling? (Sorry, I'm not able to check it right now)
Now I think you must use "audit enharmonic spelling".

When I want an accidental that can survive the "audit accidentals" I use Rick's trick: a hidden, muted, natural grace note just before the accidental.
1289
General Discussion / Re: multiple repeat to coda third time
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it isn't necessary to embed the sign in the D.S. command, the words are sufficient.  Similarly, the coda itself doesn't need the word Coda, it just needs the gunsight.

I think I always (or almost...) saw the D.S. command with the sign and the coda with only the word "coda" and no gunsight.
I saw also "D.S. [sign] al [gunsight] poi Coda" (from [sign] to [gunsight] then Coda).
1291
General Discussion / Kx driver
In both my computers (the old one with win2000 and the new with XP) I have a SB Live basic.
To be able to exploit their SoundFont capability I'm using the Kx driver.

I discovered that there is a problem with that driver: if you play the "long" triangle then you play the "short" triangle I expect the "long" one to stop playing immediately.
So does indeed the Creative driver but not the Kx driver. It treats the two as two independent instruments!

The same applies for the hi-hat.

Can someone confirm it?

I found no reference to that problem anywhere.
Long ago I wrote about it in the Kx forum but I didn't get any answer, not even an acknowledge...
1292
User Tools / Re: A better Arpeggiate Chord
I updated my version of the tool for arpeggiating so it can take care of the split chords like these:
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!NoteWorthyComposerClip(2.0,Single)
|Bar
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-5|Wide:Y|Justify:Right
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-6^|Opts:Stem=Up,Diminuendo,Beam=First|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-4^|Opts:Stem=Up,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-2^|Opts:Stem=Up,Diminuendo,Beam=End|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:-6,-4,-2|Opts:Stem=Down,Diminuendo|Dur2:4th|Pos2:1
|Text|Text:"c"|Font:User1|Pos:-6|Wide:Y|Justify:Right
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-7^|Opts:Stem=Up,Diminuendo,Beam=First|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-4^|Opts:Stem=Up,Diminuendo,Beam|Visibility:Never
|Note|Dur:8th,Grace|Pos:-2^|Opts:Stem=Up,Diminuendo,Beam=End|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:0|Opts:Stem=Up,Diminuendo|Dur2:4th|Pos2:-7,-4,-2
|Dynamic|Style:mp|Pos:-13
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-2|Opts:Stem=Up|Dur2:4th|Pos2:n-3
|Note|Dur:8th|Pos:0^|Opts:Stem=Up
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:n-4|Opts:Stem=Down|Dur2:4th|Pos2:0
|Bar
!NoteWorthyComposerClip-End



By the way: in the original nwsw_ArpeggiateChord.php Version 1.21 the line 50 is useless (but causes no harm)
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		$chorddur = $o->GetTaggedOpt("Dur");
1293
General Discussion / Re: MIDI request
I agree with Bill.

I also suggested to use the percussion clef when importing in NWC a MIDI file channel 10, at least for the part that would be notated in the bass clef.
1295
User Tools / Re: A better Arpeggiate Chord
That's what I did some time ago.

Beside hiding the grace notes, it puts the arpeggio symbol from the User1 font centered between the lower and the upper note of the arpeggio.
As User1 font I use MusikDings, one of the Lawrie's fonts.

The problem is that the "insertion point" of the arpeggio symbol is not the center of the glyph and, if my memory don't gets me wrong, it's also different from the one used in Boxmarks-Boxmark2.
As a workaround I set the insertion point 3 steps lower than the center position.
I'm not very satified of that since it depends on the font size, but it works.

Just in case it can be useful for someone else...
1296
General Discussion / Re: A tempo
Bill,
of course the thing is not a big problem to overcome, but I was thinking to something like many "performance styles". Think of "tutti", "sostenuto", "solo" etc. whose only function, beside showing the text, is only (AFAIK) to stop a preceding "staccato" or "legato".

By the way (I have no time to check right now): "rubato" is a true tempo variance?

Randy,
sometimes I found myself longing for something like what you propose.
It could be interesting but we need to check accurately if there are too many exceptions to the rule.
Food for though...
1297
General Discussion / A tempo
While notating, I have often to use "a tempo" and regularily I find myself looking in "tempo variance" wondering why I can't find it.
Of course I can't find it because it's not there.
Probably the reasoning behind that absence is that it fits better as a "tempo" specifying the BPM at once.
Maybe one can possibly see it also as a "perfomance style".
Anyway, my fingers go automatically on "tempo variance"...
1298
General Discussion / Re: Constricted measures
Inserting a text composed of blanks only and selecting preserve width...
Almost trivial.
I feel stupid for not having found that solution myself.
Thank you, Rick!
1299
General Discussion / Re: Constricted measures
This happens because you're trying to paste on a staff a whole .nwctxt file, not an NWC clip.
An .nwctxt file can contain more than one staff and is a complete alternative to the standard .nwc format.
An NWC clip is just a snippet.

Hint for Eric: when the clipboard contains a .nwctxt file, why not to paste it in another (new) window?
1300
General Discussion / Re: Constricted measures
And what about doing the opposite? :-)

I'd like to leave more space before the second note in the triplet, but using "extra note space" the accidental don't move and using "extra accidental space" the accidental goes in the wrong direction.
A possible solution would be allowing a negative "extra accidental space", but I'm sure Rick knows a trick...

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!NoteWorthyComposer(2.0)
|SongInfo|Title:""|Author:""|Lyricist:""|Copyright1:""|Copyright2:""
|PgSetup|StaffSize:18|Zoom:5|TitlePage:Y|JustifyVertically:Y|ExtendLastSystem:N|DurationPadding:Y|PageNumbers:1|StaffLabels:None|BarNumbers:Plain|StartingBar:1
|Font|Style:Staff Italic|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:11|Bold:Y|Italic:Y|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Staff Bold|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:9|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Staff Lyric|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Page Title Text|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:24|Bold:Y|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Page Text|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:12|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:Page Small Text|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 1|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:13|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 2|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:13|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 3|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:13|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 4|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:13|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 5|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|Font|Style:User 6|Typeface:"Times New Roman"|Size:8|Bold:N|Italic:N|CharSet:0
|PgMargins|Left:1.78|Top:1.78|Right:1.78|Bottom:1.78|Mirror:N
|AddStaff|Name:"Right Hand"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:18|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Style:Upper Grand Staff|Layer:Y|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:1
|StaffInstrument|Patch:0|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:2/4
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-3,1,2,4|Opts:Stem=Down,Crescendo
|Rest|Dur:8th|Opts:Crescendo
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=First|Pos:x-3,x4|Opts:Stem=Up,Crescendo,Beam=First
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet|Pos:#-3,#4|Opts:Stem=Up,Crescendo,Beam
|Chord|Dur:8th,Triplet=End|Pos:x-3,x4|Opts:Stem=Up,Crescendo,Beam=End
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:-2,5|Opts:Stem=Up
|Rest|Dur:8th
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:#0,2,4,#7|Opts:Stem=Down
|Rest|Dur:8th
|AddStaff|Name:"Left Hand"|Group:"Standard"
|StaffProperties|EndingBar:Section Close|Visible:Y|BoundaryTop:10|BoundaryBottom:10|Lines:5|Style:Upper Grand Staff|Layer:N|Color:Default
|StaffProperties|Muted:N|Volume:127|StereoPan:64|Device:0|Channel:2
|StaffInstrument|Patch:0|Trans:0|DynVel:10,30,45,60,75,92,108,127
|Clef|Type:Treble
|TimeSig|Signature:2/4
|Rest|Dur:4th|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
|Chord|Dur:4th|Pos:1^,3^|Opts:Stem=Down,XNoteSpace=1,Tie=Downward
|Bar
|Chord|Dur:8th|Pos:1,3|Opts:Stem=Down,XNoteSpace=1
|Rest|Dur:4th,Dotted|Opts:Stem=Down|Visibility:Never
!NoteWorthyComposer-End